$25 NLHE 6-max: Flop a set 4-way, facing river allin

Pretty strange hand, villain playing 18/9, Maybe I should've bet the flop but I felt like many weak aces would fold so I decided to check it,
Should I call the river? I was just stunned when I saw the allin, what could he possibly have?


pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (UTG) ($58.88)
MP ($25.98)
CO ($26.10)
Button ($40.97)
SB ($25)
BB ($31.17)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7 , 7
Hero bets $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 2 folds, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) 9 , 7 , A (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($3) J (4 players)
SB bets $1.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $2.60

River: ($11) 5 (2 players)
SB bets $20.25 (All-In), Hero ???

Pot flop no A folds to a single cbet. Pot turn,pot river

JOEBOB69 said:

Pot flop no A folds to a single cbet. Pot turn,pot river

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Yep. Slowplay in a 4 way pot is mega terrible.

As played, call river and sigh about how you let JJ get there for free.

Horribad, c-bet flop always.

What do you do here if you have AK ? Bet/fold all streets, do the same here execpt bet/call all streets.

BET THE FLOP!!!

As played snap call the river.

yeah I would bet flop too, bet turn and riv as well.

as played I would call, if it's a cooler so be it.

Agree with all above, put money in pre flop, really surprised you slow played


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I think that he has 55 or a5s.Had he jacks he would reraise turn which is the same as leading river all-in.also he would squeeze preflop with that. in general it looks like a two pair that hit river or a mediocre hand in general that called flop cause ur line looked bluffy and then hit hard. But these hands we beat anyway. I would worry about 68s here sometimes but a tight passive guy dont think is calling that pre against a UTG raise. U have to call and i hope u doubled-up.

thanks guys,
Should've definetly bet the flop indeed, he rivered a straight with 68

BvBrMTW said:

he rivered a straight with 68

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Yeah we knew that already. Your turn raise could stand to be larger btw.

same thing happened to me yesterday. it's tough when it happens but what the hell can we do?

888 Poker - $0.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $13.66 (VPIP: 47.30, PFR: 6.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
Hero (BTN): $29.07
SB: $32.48 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 55)
BB: $11.18 (VPIP: 25.38, PFR: 18.08, 3Bet Preflop: 6.00, Hands: 269)
UTG: $22.15 (VPIP: 21.25, PFR: 15.01, 3Bet Preflop: 3.83, Hands: 524)
MP: $24.52 (VPIP: 47.17, PFR: 33.96, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 56)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.20

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.30) Hero has 8:spade: 8:heart:

fold, MP raises to $0.60, fold, Hero calls $0.60, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 7:club: 3:spade: 8:club:
MP bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2.60, MP calls $1.80

Turn: ($6.70, 2 players) T:heart:
MP checks, Hero bets $4.00, MP raises to $12.00, Hero raises to $25.87, MP calls $9.32

River: ($49.34, 2 players) 6:heart:

Hero shows 8:spade: 8:heart: (Three of a Kind, Eights) (Pre 55%, Flop 82%, Turn 23%)
MP shows J:spade: 9:club: (Straight, Jack High) (Pre 45%, Flop 18%, Turn 77%)
MP wins $46.88

forsakenone said:

Flop: ($1.50, 2 players) 7♣3♠8♣
MP bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2.60, MP calls $1.80

Turn: ($6.70, 2 players) T♥
MP checks, Hero bets $4.00, MP raises to $12.00, Hero raises to $25.87, MP calls $9.32

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Because villain donked the flop for $0.80, it makes a pot sized raise $3.90. Your raise offered him 3.7:1 direct odds and 15.5:1 implied odds. Your raise was the equivalent of betting about 35 cents into a dollar pot. Against a fish on a super wet board, you'd never bet that small. But you forgot to factor this into your raise size.

Villain's play was correct if he knew what you had. He had a ~13:1 draw on the flop (counting your redraw). You offered him 15.5:1 implied odds because your raise was so low. Don't make the same mistake next time! Charge 'em full price.

Yeah on the OP.. definitely bet that flop. and then bet/raise the turn. But as played I think you gotta call and if your beat because he hit on the river then learn from your mistakes and bet that flop.

c9h13no3 said:

Because villain donked the flop for $0.80, it makes a pot sized raise $3.90. Your raise offered him 3.7:1 direct odds and 15.5:1 implied odds. Your raise was the equivalent of betting about 35 cents into a dollar pot. Against a fish on a super wet board, you'd never bet that small. But you forgot to factor this into your raise size.

Villain's play was correct if he knew what you had. He had a ~13:1 draw on the flop (counting your redraw). You offered him 15.5:1 implied odds because your raise was so low. Don't make the same mistake next time! Charge 'em full price.

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yes I should have made it bigger on flop. Although he called because he was a fish not because he has odds, and 3.7: are not enough odds to call with a gs which you make about 15%.

forsakenone said:

yes I should have made it bigger on flop. Although he called because he was a fish not because he has odds, and 3.7: are not enough odds to call with a gs which you make about 15%.

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It's enough implied odds. If he thinks you ship your stack in when he hits, he has odds to call. Sure, he called because he was a fish, but his play was made correct because of the small raise size. Same principles as set mining, but to the turn rather than the flop.

Btw, a gutshot is about 9% to hit on the turn (10.1:1). But he's drawing to only 78% equity, so he needs 12.95:1 (or 13, because rounding is cool). His flop call really isn't terrible if he thinks some of his pair outs are good and if he thinks you have a decent number of draws and bluffs in your range (which may be true on a board like this).

OP as you have heard bet bet bet. Foresakenone question why not 3bet pre as wild as he was?