$25 NLHE 6-max: CALL OR FOLD PLEASE HELP

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Im on button with AJ
Villain on the BB

folds round to me i raise to 62c
villain calls.

Flop 5D JD 7c

he checks i bet 79c
he calls

turn 6S
i bet 1.79 he calls

river AH
he checks i bet 3.76 he raises to 17.35 leaving him $11 left in his stack.

Should i have called or folded??? i had no stats on this guy as my hm2 has just expired, also the guy is called CWLRS from the UK if this helps?:confused:
 
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I'm calling. This is a weird way to play a set, so I really don't think he has one. It's a strange way to play a atraight so I doubt that too (also he'd have had to hit a gutter for that). I think he probably rivered a worse two pair and got overzealous or he is deciding to check-raise his missed diamond draw. I bet his has A7dd, that's my guess.
 
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Calling but not happy about it. Folding is fine too, as this is a spot where almost nobody bluffs. Going to be beat here a decent amount of the time. Check-call, check-call, check-raise are almost always nutty hands. The only "value" hands you beat are worse two pair Axdd, but I'm not sure those check-raise the river when you already rep a polarized range. You might be chopping with AJ too.
 
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Check calling the river would b better... the way you played runs into more of his nutty range
 
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$25 NLHE 6-max: CALL OR FOLD PLEASE HELP

I know CWLRS. He's a good winning reg, plays kinda loose and pretty aggressive. He's never bluffing here though I don't think. So what can he have? possibly a straight like 89 but I'm sure he'd be raising the turn with that given the two diamonds (because he can rep a flush draw therefor getting value from your top pair and overpair hands and he can get value from your flush draws, calling turn with a straight is a mistake here that I don't expect), He might even raise flop with his gutshot for fold equity.

Any set would definitely atleast raise turn given that the board is now pretty drawy with the exception of MAYBE JJ but he might 3bet that pre - and AA is far too unlikely to even consider, so I'm ruling a set out.
So if he's raising his draws and his made hands on either flop or turn then what hands is he calling down with and then raising river? He could have any two pair with ace, but most likely only AJ given his sizing and the fact that your line looks very strong too, JJ is slightly possible I guess but we can't be afraid of that, 89dd which was the absolute nuts and so didn't want to raise you off your hand, and MAYBE just a normal straight which played badly. I think it's close and I'm probably calling if I don't know villain and taking a note because of the weird line but a fold here is perfectly fine and in all honesty probably the better play.

Aces2w1n - He can't check/call river as he has position, it's either bet/call, bet/fold or check behind. You played it fine imo and either decision on the river is probably OK.
 
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Check back the turn? Tons of draws complete, and we'll induce bluffs a fair bit of the time. I wouldn't go for 3 streets against a reg.
 
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Literally only 89 completed on the turn. He's not playing 48 and unlikely 34. Checking turn is probably not good because we're not getting value from weaker jacks, one pair hands and gutshots like 78. Can't just give him a free card here with TPTK, no good reason at all to check turn imo. Well played I think
 
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Literally only 89 completed on the turn. He's not playing 48 and unlikely 34. Checking turn is probably not good because we're not getting value from weaker jacks, one pair hands and gutshots like 78. Can't just give him a free card here with TPTK, no good reason at all to check turn imo. Well played I think
67, 56 got there, 88/99 picked up a draw they may bluff with. And you think we're getting 3 streets from KJ/99 type hands?
 
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Are 56 and 67 really calling flop OOP? Given that only suited varieties defend I think we are looking at many more combos of FD that we want to protect against rather than checking back.
 
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Yeah, I kinda threw it out there. Probably better to bet, but I'm not convinced.

This is an interesting hand, for questions like:

1) What's a reg flat OOP with on the flop BvB?
2) How many bluffs does he get to the river with? Does he turn 88/JT into a bluff on the river?
3) Does he check/raise stuff like A6s on the river for value? (probably not I would think)
 
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I agree C9 with 3) it's a damn weird way to play 2 pair. But then again it's a damn weird way to play any of his value hands. Check raising river is an odd line that I've only personally taken as a bluff raise when I'm certain he's missed. Idk. If you have some sort of note that he's a bit of a weirdo I'm leaning towards calling. Villain unknown....flip a coin.
 
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