$25 NLHE 6-max: BTN 3bet vs JJ UTG. Line for top set

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Wondering about different line cause i think min-clicking the turn puts my hand face up.

Anyone prefer:
1) x/r on the flop
2) x/c flop, x/r on the turn
2) x/c flop, x/c turn and x/j river?

any reason why pls!!!

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $30.57 (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, hands: 22)
SB: $25.00 (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 18.37, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 49)
BB: $13.00 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 35.71, 3Bet Preflop: 42.86, Hands: 14)
Hero (UTG): $37.29
MP: $30.13 (VPIP: 16.95, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 59)
CO: $29.39 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 15.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 67)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J:club: J:heart:

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.25, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.85, 2 players) 6:diamond: 8:spade: J:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.85, 2 players) 2:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero raises to $12.00, BTN calls $7.00

River: ($33.85, 2 players) 4:heart:
Hero bets $20.54 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $32.33
 
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4bet pre.
Bet Bet Bet
Or
Bet ch/r Bet
 
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you want to 4bet a BTN 3bet vs UTG open? I personally dont think thats ideal. I called cause I didnt want to get into his value 5bet-shove range.

donk flop once we bink the nuts?
 
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Why did you not raise the flop? not worried about any flush or higher card in the turn / river?
 
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CR the flop. I don't think many donks at this level will be folding QQ+ so might as well look to stack them and get value from his drawing range. Not a fan of the turn CR either. You should look to lead since it's going to be checked behind a lot, or he could raise you.
 
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i would check call the turn and bet the river, but i like your line it was ok for me.
 
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You had to make raise to $7.50 after the river so you can take him much money, because the more important in poker is to take more much money as you can from your opponents, than to expelled them from the hand.
 
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I'd 4-bet pre and as played, CR flop for sure.
 
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to get more money you would have to have done a bluff, and bet that you let it go .. maybe he would steal more money ...
 
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pocketehs said:
Wondering about different line cause i think min-clicking the turn puts my hand face up.

Anyone prefer:
1) x/r on the flop
2) x/c flop, x/r on the turn
2) x/c flop, x/c turn and x/j river?

any reason why pls!!!

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $30.57 (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 22)
SB: $25.00 (VPIP: 24.49, PFR: 18.37, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 49)
BB: $13.00 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 35.71, 3Bet Preflop: 42.86, Hands: 14)
Hero (UTG): $37.29
MP: $30.13 (VPIP: 16.95, PFR: 15.25, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 59)
CO: $29.39 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 15.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 67)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J<font color='black'>♣</font> J<font color='red'>♥</font>

Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.25, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.85, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♦</font> 8<font color='black'>♠</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.85, 2 players) 2<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.00, Hero raises to $12.00, BTN calls $7.00

River: ($33.85, 2 players) 4<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero bets $20.54 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins $32.33
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The flop is not so scary as i think the guy with 3bet of 50% will 3bet all ****
so i think you can go either way. CR flop seems good , but i would c/c flop and CR turn if its not a spade , or if its a spade then call and CF river if he goes AI.
 
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c/r flop v someone who wont fold overpairs sounds good, would be good to know how many opportunities he has had to 3bet. if he is hyper aggro then call call call looks good
 
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why does everyone want to 4bet pre? are people stoked about snapping a 5bet? do we want him to fold all his air? do we want expect a range we crush to gii, is this not one of the nut hands to flat here?
 
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Can't see much that much wrong, you won a decent pot and you were out of position, so he was always going to be able to get away from the river.
Agree with Jon about getting the money in earlier on the flop before any scare cards and coolers come along. Do you have an aggression rating displayed on your hud? That may help you decide whether or not to rope a dope an aggressive opponent or to raise a passive caller type.
 
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duggs said:
why does everyone want to 4bet pre? are people stoked about snapping a 5bet? do we want him to fold all his air? do we want expect a range we crush to gii, is this not one of the nut hands to flat here?
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pretty stoked
 
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duggs said:
c/r flop v someone who wont fold overpairs sounds good, would be good to know how many opportunities he has had to 3bet. if he is hyper aggro then call call call looks good
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yeah i think raise flop looks better cause i rep draws.

duggs said:
why does everyone want to 4bet pre? are people stoked about snapping a 5bet? do we want him to fold all his air? do we want expect a range we crush to gii, is this not one of the nut hands to flat here?
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this is what im thinking and why i dont want to 4bet/gii.
 
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We cannot assing too much of a range with a sample of 22 hands. The 3-bet of 50 doesn't mean anything. We do know that he is TAG and if he sees us as well i think that he is not 3-betting us with a unreasonable speculative hand. If we consider hands like TT+,AJs+,KQs,QJs,JTs,AQo+ we barely flip with JJ.
As played. The betsize on the flop looks like he has air. I would give him the chance to bluff the river, his only chance to steal the pot.Check like we missed our flush. If you lead the river you get nothing.
 
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