$25 NLHE 6-max: Anything wrong with the way I played this hand?

BvBrMTW

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Hey guys,
Mostly playing mtt's lately, just tried a cash session and ran into this hand, Would you've played this different?

Villain playing 40/30/23 over 50 hands.

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($43.52)
MP ($25)
Hero (CO) ($25)
Button ($23.25)
SB ($50.07)
BB ($30.33)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A
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, Q
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2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) 3
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, 6
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, Q
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(2 players)
SB bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

Turn: ($10.25) A
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(2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $7

River: ($34.25) 8
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $8 (All-In),
 
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Nope, seems super reasonable. There's an argument for shoving turn but I like the smaller raise.
 
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I'm a fan of the play. I think it's perfect. U can maybe shove turn if you think he will call with worse. Otherwise just get him committed with the raise and get the money in on the river because u r probably good here most of the time
 
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4-bet pre. otherwise this is a bad beat post.
 
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I think given we have position; 4B pre or flatting the 3B are fine but I think I'd be swayed more to just flatting IP. Had I been out of postion vs this player; I'd much prefer 4 betting.

Also; I think we fold out all his bluffs when we 4bet, as he's only really going to continue with the absolute top of his range, at least when he 3bets, we keep in all his worse range including all the dominated Ax/Qx hands. Also, problem with 4betting is that I'm unsure we get action all the time unless there is a dynamic of 3betting and 4betting between the both of us I think he's just going to fold all the worse hands we beat and just happily 5bet shove JJ+/AK+
 
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he's a 40/30 who 3-bet a LP opener, 4-bet to get it in here.
 
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he's a 40/30 who 3-bet a LP opener, 4-bet to get it in here.

Yeah, he's aggro enough I mean if we can 4bet and get him to stack of pre that's great. I'm just not sure if he's aggro enough to just flat our 4bet oop or randomly decide to 5bet shove worse in this spot. I just think we are going to look way to strong by 4betting here that's the only problem given i assume this is a spot where our range is weighted towards value in villains eyes. Of course as I said, if there has been a lot of LP/blind battles between me and this guy the 4betting pre is by far better. However, if villain has us down as folding to a lot of 3bets pre, he's just gonna snap fold our 4bet and we miss some value from villian.

I just feel the last thing we want though, is to get him to fold those worse Ax/Qx hands don't you think? Especially if we think he's not going anywhere if he flops top pair.
 
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Shove turn, you loose value from flush draws that check/fold river. He still probably calls the turn shove with his pairs anyway as well.

Don't 4 bet pre-flop, 50 hands isn't enough to determine his 3 bet stat just because he is aggro post-flop.
 
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I like the play by flatting pre with AQo against 40/30 stats.
With 50 hands is not accurate, after 500 hands he can be a tight player with 20/15 stats

If you 4b pre against this villain with only 50 hands, what do you do if he shove? call/fold?

If a villain 3bet a lot from SB/BB vs CO/BU steal, you can 4bet him pre and call a shove with AQo.
 
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Standard, just because you wake up to a cooler doesn't mean you played it wrong.
 
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I like the play by flatting pre with AQo against 40/30 stats.
With 50 hands is not accurate, after 500 hands he can be a tight player with 20/15 stats

If you 4b pre against this villain with only 50 hands, what do you do if he shove? call/fold?

If a villain 3bet a lot from SB/BB vs CO/BU steal, you can 4bet him pre and call a shove with AQo.


it's extremely unlikely he will be a tight player after 500 hands

4-bet to get it in. if he folds out 88 it's a fantastic result. if he folds 87s it;s a good result.

this is 6-max micros on stars, every ****** 3-bets wide from SB/BB vs. CO/BU
 
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Shove turn, you loose value from flush draws that check/fold river. He still probably calls the turn shove with his pairs anyway as well.

Don't 4 bet pre-flop, 50 hands isn't enough to determine his 3 bet stat just because he is aggro post-flop.
Dude this is a resteal. Even if he had a standard 3bet range it's gonna be like 20% at least in this spot. Given the stats we have laid it may well be more like 30-35%; so this is an easy 4bet for value.

That said I'd 4bet small (possibly min-4bet) and try to entice him to call; I don't think a good lag will stack off with AJ or effective air here.
 
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Dude this is a resteal. Even if he had a standard 3bet range it's gonna be like 20% at least in this spot. Given the stats we have laid it may well be more like 30-35%; so this is an easy 4bet for value.

That said I'd 4bet small (possibly min-4bet) and try to entice him to call; I don't think a good lag will stack off with AJ or effective air here.

If he's good, he stacks off better only and folds all his 3 betting light junk.

Also how do you know his standard 3 bet range is gonna be 20% "etleast"? Most regs don't have that ridiculously high stat at 25nl the games I play.

Again, this is over 50 hands, not enough hands to 4 bet GII as he only comes over the top with better.
 
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Also how do you know his standard 3 bet range is gonna be 20% "etleast"?
Because it's a SB vs CO resteal so everyone is epically full of shit. A UTG vs blinds 3bet by comparison would be much much tighter -- probably like 6% assuming a standard 9% overall 3bet stat.

This, incidentally, is why I hate 3bet PF as a general stat. Every 3bet is not alike.
 
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u play it right, u r only loosing to a set if that the case thats poker.
but it was the right play.
 
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