$25 NLHE 6-max: Allin with 2pair on the river

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I was just wondering whether I made any mistakes in this hand,
MP was playing 50/4 so I was sure he'd call the raise pre, and CO played 28/28 and opened close to 40 from the CO, so his range was extremely wide.
So, was the turn shove bad? should I just flat the turn?

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MP ($10.55)
CO ($25)
Button ($41.64)
Hero (SB) ($25.45)
BB ($35.25)
UTG ($34.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7
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, 8
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1 fold, MP calls $0.25, CO bets $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) 10
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, A
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, 7
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(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($3.25) 8
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(3 players)
Hero bets $2.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $7.50, Hero raises to $24.45 (All-In),
 
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Well yes he showing that he can open wider, and may very well be stealing, but he can also squeeze here.

First, fold or 3bet pre.

As played we make 2 pair hand, but there are tons of draws that if haven't been made can be otr. I personally fold here.

I do not like the reraise-shove, because there are so many hands that dominate. And we get called by better too often.
 
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Why would you raise/fold pre? I get the right implied odds to just call, and if I miss I lay it down.
 
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Well yes he showing that he can open wider, and may very well be stealing, but he can also squeeze here.

First, fold or 3bet pre.

As played we make 2 pair hand, but there are tons of draws that if haven't been made can be otr. I personally fold here.

I do not like the reraise-shove, because there are so many hands that dominate. And we get called by better too often.
imo (and I'm not entirely confident about this spot so take this with a grain of salt) whatever CO has he made on the turn, which eliminates spades, combo draws, made straights (barring gutter), and Aces. Set is unlikely as we hold the blocker, so the best he's likely to have is middle two. More likely he has a backdoor draw (diamond flush or OESD) and picked up outs, in which case shoving gives him incorrect odds to chase. It's mega-thin, but I might shove and hope he calls a draw without odds or is nitty enough to lay down middle/top 2 to 3bet (which he is if he checked an Ace behind).
 
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If CO is opening a wide range/ or Isolating fish very wide from the CO position, why not 3 bet pre-flop instead of flat call. Obviously if you think the fish would cold call the 3 bet then it would be better not to. Also even with the fish coming in I don't think you should be flat calling his raise pre-flop OOP, if you were on the BTN then it would be okay. 7/8s would be okay to flat call if we know that we get villains stack if he his and we hit and also if 5 cards came, however this is so unlikely that pre-flop is a 3 bet or fold, probably not getting good odds actually.

Honestly I haven't got a clue what villain has on turn, so I can't really say if turn is good or bad. Interesting line by villain, however turn raises at these stakes are usually the nuts more often, I am honestly just guesstimating though.
 
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Thanks guys,
I guess I should've folded pre then, as the fish didn't fold as soon as he limped.

He turned out to have J9s indeed.
 
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Thanks guys,
I guess I should've folded pre then, as the fish didn't fold as soon as he limped.

He turned out to have J9s indeed.
Ouch. What an unexpected turn of events. How can you put him on a j9?
and on the other hand,how can you let go of 2 pairs the way the hand went down.
 
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I would have folded pre as well, as played I am barreling the turn but I am not 3 betting all in, I would probably call turn raise and reevaluate on river.
 
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I fold pre. The huge fish would make this a fine call from the button, out of position I'm folding.

The turn shove is very bad, in these spots try and think of the best hand villain can have we beat and ask yourself if it plays this way. I call and fold most rivers.
 
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I say 3 bet pre-flop. You got a limper that showing weakness and a CO that opens with almost atc. You don't want to play an out of position hand with 2 people in the pot. Flatting just lays the welcome mat for MP to stay in.

Or just fold and wait for a better spot.
 
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don't play suited connectors OOP without iniative /endthread
 
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What is with all these HHs lately where people are trying to push bad players off good hands when they bet the river? FPS ITF.
 
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I was just wondering whether I made any mistakes in this hand,
MP was playing 50/4 so I was sure he'd call the raise pre, and CO played 28/28 and opened close to 40 from the CO, so his range was extremely wide.
So, was the turn shove bad? should I just flat the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($10.55)
CO ($25)
Button ($41.64)
Hero (SB) ($25.45)
BB ($35.25)
UTG ($34.60)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7
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, 8
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1 fold, MP calls $0.25, CO bets $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) 10
diamond.gif
, A
spade.gif
, 7
spade.gif
(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO checks

Turn: ($3.25) 8
diamond.gif
(3 players)
Hero bets $2.25, 1 fold, CO raises to $7.50, Hero raises to $24.45 (All-In),
Calling pre was the mistake. You need high implied odds when you play SCs and since both of their ranges are wide you just don't have them. Throw in the fact that the fish is playing less than 1/2 a stack AND you're OOP and this is a huge loser preflop.
 
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