$25 NLHE 6-max: AK

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PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 143.04 BB
MP: 136.12 BB
CO: 98.6 BB
BTN: 42.88 BB
Hero (SB): 154.44 BB
BB: 17.48 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:diamond: A:club:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 17.4 BB, fold, UTG raises to 47.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 30.4 BB

Flop: (99.6 BB, 2 players) K:spade: 9:heart: 6:spade:
Hero checks, UTG bets 61.8 BB, Hero raises to 106.64 BB and is all-in, UTG calls 33.44 BB and is all-in

Turn: (290.08 BB, 2 players) 8:club:

River: (290.08 BB, 2 players) T:spade:


Villain was a 50/40 vpip/pfr, 0 3bet, 2.5AF over ~35 hands

Standard? Should I have got it in pre?
 
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150 deep stacking pre might not be the best but if we're 100 deep I'm doing it all day long against this guy so it can't be too bad.
 
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I hate to say you should 5bet to realize your equity so deep, and I hate to say you should flat against a player with those stats. I think if I was conscious of the stack sizes I probably would have just overcalled, of course it's easy to say that in retrospect.

3bet folding AK is a /throwup moment and pretty bad but the only worse thing I could do in that spot is flat for like 20% of my stack. So I guess you could just fold to the 4bet?

blockers aside, you have AK and you got 5bet UTG - it's hard to really envision a way for this scenario to yield you positive equity results in the long term, its just a matter of trying to solve the puzzle and make the best decision in that moment.

What happens on a J96 flop or when you brick? You just gonna put in 30% of your stack and send slick into the muckeroo?
 
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Folding ak pre isnt uncommon to his 4b

Sick run out...as played u cant fold and im with you with shoving spr is low enough and it must b done
 
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Stack sizes make it close, but I like GII pre versus someone like this that is trying to monkey around. I think you'll still even find some dominated hands sometimes against guys like this enough for it to be profitable. If you're calling pre for 1/3rd of your stack though, what was your post flop plan? Because you know he's betting.
 
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Yeh only reason i said not to shove was no reads
 
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Dpends how much we think villain is 4betting with less than kk aa ... its hard these days even with blockers

We hit 1 out of 3 roughly times and quite a bit wont even b good even when we do hit . plus chance someone will hit a set.

Its just awkward everyway you look hence u fold shove pre

Then last question would b how many mistakes villain going to make when we shove pre??
 
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Stack sizes make it close, but I like GII pre versus someone like this that is trying to monkey around. I think you'll still even find some dominated hands sometimes against guys like this enough for it to be profitable. If you're calling pre for 1/3rd of your stack though, what was your post flop plan? Because you know he's betting.

Really it was to play fit or fold post which I don't like, I also didn't like 5 bet GII pre 150bb deep against someone that hasn't even 3 bet yet and is 3x 4 betting. The guy may be a 50/40 but he has seen 35 hands/6 orbits of play without 3 betting. Does this indicate he is not 3 betting light too often and probably not 4 betting light at all? Or is the sample just too small to really worry about his 3 bet stat?

Like Aces said about folding, it was my first instinct but I just felt like I couldn't vs a 50/40, it was a super awkward spot.

Would you say the best preflop action is 5B GII>Fold>Call?
 
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Fold because we get put into spots like this and often think we r good... if we know our opponent also plays tt-qq aq same perhaps shove would b profitable but we just dont have that info...

Calling leads to hardspots like this
 
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Ship it pre & fistpump.



After you fist pump, get shown KK and brick the flop and then promptly deposit more money to give to tight aggressive cash game players who are really good lol
 
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Could 3B/fold or 3Bet ship. I probably make that decision based on how I've seen him play the last few orbits.

3Bet/calling is horrible IMO. We aren't even suited.
 
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After you fist pump, get shown KK and brick the flop and then promptly deposit more money to give to tight aggressive cash game players who are really good lol
A 50/40 is not a TAG. True story bro.
 
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Could 3B/fold or 3Bet ship. I probably make that decision based on how I've seen him play the last few orbits.

3Bet/calling is horrible IMO. We aren't even suited.

I didnt post this hand because I played it well, no need for berating. This deep against this villain I probably should of shipped pre. Against a reg/tighter player im probably folding.
 
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I didnt post this hand because I played it well, no need for berating. This deep against this villain I probably should of shipped pre. Against a reg/tighter player im probably folding.

I am not berating. There were three options and you picked the worst one. You should have seen some of my old hand threads if you think "horrible" is bad. Against a 50/40 even with a small sample I think stacking off is appropriate.
 
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A 50/40 is not a TAG. True story bro.

true. I could say 35 hands isn't really a true sample size but I still don't like shipping AK here!

In a game of math sometimes these are "feel" spots. Would be pretty gratifying to get snapped by Jacks or something then get that ace in the window!
 
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