$25 NLHE 6-max: AJo OOP. Not sure if calling off is standard here?

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Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $25.35 (VPIP: 19.41, PFR: 15.03, 3Bet Preflop: 5.04, hands: 872)
UTG: $61.47 (VPIP: 27.87, PFR: 16.39, 3Bet Preflop: 4.26, Hands: 125)
Hero (CO): $52.63
BTN: $26.28 (VPIP: 18.39, PFR: 11.92, 3Bet Preflop: 3.41, Hands: 667)
SB: $50.05 (VPIP: 25.62, PFR: 23.40, 3Bet Preflop: 10.64, Hands: 506)

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J♠ A♣

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35, 3 players) 4♣ J♥ T♠
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, fold

Turn: ($4.85, 2 players) A♥
Hero bets $2.75, BTN raises to $8.25, Hero calls $5.50

River: ($21.35, 2 players) 3♠
Hero checks, BTN bets $10.14, Hero calls $10.14

BTN shows Ks Qh wins $39.63

$0.24 was deducted from the pot for the jackpot.
 
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This is KQ a huge percentage of the time, and I don't think our opponent plays AT or A4 like this. Maybe T:heart:9:heart: plays this way?

Yeah, I fold the turn, but I'm not a huge fan of it.
 
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Agree with c9h...in that I think opp has KQ. 10 9 is possible but not knowing how opp been playing, hard to tell. Safe bet is KQ. Hard to fold the turn though, but I think you can get away from it.
 
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I think we can take bluffs out of the guys range to a very large degree once we call that big pop on turn that looks like it pot sticks us and he fires again on river. Totally, no, never, but I think we need to be limiting it to 10% or under. So the question really is what is he shoving for value here and how do we do against that range with a bit included for spaz outs...?

I don't think we're doing well at all tbh...lots of sets and KQ's...etc.
 
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Don't post results in the OP.

Villain can play AT, JT, A4s, KQ, 44, 1010 all like this. He could of even turned random pairs with flush draws like 109hh so I just get it in turn. The math is probably pretty close but I think it's fine.
 
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Don't post results in the OP.

Villain can play AT, JT, A4s, KQ, 44, 1010 all like this. He could of even turned random pairs with flush draws like 109hh so I just get it in turn. The math is probably pretty close but I think it's fine.

Only one draw got there; maybe he would be that wide on a more dangerous card, but.....I think you're too wide imho. Why would pair and a draw hands not often opt to just call turn and realize equity?

I mean you could play it both ways, but it isn't a bad price.
 
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Only one draw got there; maybe he would be that wide on a more dangerous card, but.....I think you're too wide imho. Why would pair and a draw hands not often opt to just call turn and realize equity?

I mean you could play it both ways, but it isn't a bad price.

The hand you called out isn't even part of the actual range and a mere possibility and not expected often.
 
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I haven't checked the spoiler, nor have I read all the replies.

It sure does smell like KQ. I suppose he could have A-10, or even A-J as well. I think I probably just fold turn as played. We have to think ahead to the inevitable river shove. We're not just calling the turn bet.

I am not a human poker stove, but I just don't think we're ahead often enough here to call turn raise and river shove.



Now, I'm off to check the spoiler....
 
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Don't post results in the OP.

Villain can play AT, JT, A4s, KQ, 44, 1010 all like this. He could of even turned random pairs with flush draws like 109hh so I just get it in turn. The math is probably pretty close but I think it's fine.
Old thread.

Anyways, you're 44% with that optimistic range. Add in that most players raise the flop with a hand like JT, and likely slow down with JT when the A hits the turn, and this dips below 33%.
 
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AJ, 6 max calling off an allin. Yeah, I'm calling off here 90-95% of the time. If he flopped a set of 10's, so be it. If turned the nut str8, good for him. He could also be spazzing with any Ace, turned flush draw, Q9 , some Jack repping the Ace or total air. I'm almost never folding in this spot.

Would be interested in seeing what he had.
 
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Eh, just folding the turn. This is not a good card for him to semi-bluff, as it smashes our range. We have all combos of KQ/sets in our range, so calling here can't be good. We don't have the equity to call and stack off vs his range. River is almost never getting chked through.
 
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We are likely ahead on a flop that gives a ton of draws
Its a bad board to cbet small, make it closer to full pot, I'd make it $2
Then half pot the turn, if he then raises with the bigger sizing folding to a raise from this nitty player. 18/11 with only 3.4 3bet, if a guy with these stats raises i'm happy to fold and will sleep well on it.
I'd consider gii against looser more aggro players but not this guy
 
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I think you can fold turn vs this opp. tough though, as played I'd call river with those odds..
 
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The hand you called out isn't even part of the actual range and a mere possibility and not expected often.

You quoted a post where I evidently didn't "call out" any single hand, so I have no idea how to respond to this nonsense.
 
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His PFR and 3Bet suggest he is not a type to bet his draws often. Edit: so agree with Figaroo2
 
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