$25 NLHE 6-max: Is a fold out of the question?

$25 NL HE 6-max: Is a fold out of the question?

CO: 18/13/31 (100 hands)
BB: 30/20/26 (60 hands)

Full Tilt, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BTN: $19.22 (76.9 bb)
Hero (SB): $27.56 (110.2 bb)
BB: $38.86 (155.4 bb)
MP: $49.05 (196.2 bb)
CO: $25.35 (101.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with T:diamond: T:spade:
MP raises to $0.85, CO calls $0.85, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.40) 9:spade: 4:club: 2:club: (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.70, MP folds, CO calls $2.70, Hero folds

Normally on auto-pilot I would call this in the blink of an eye. However thinking about it is my hand really going to be good here often?
I'm out of position, I at the very least have a flush draw with an overcard or two up against me and a set is very likely considering it is not the pf raiser betting.
the flush draws also have a good chance of double barrelling me and when i add in Overcards and the 2nd opponent I cant see my equity being above 30% all that often.

What do you think?

I think you just took the conservative approach. Your explaination makes sense, arguments can be made either way with this hand.

I think folding is good here, probably you`re facing a bigger pair, a set or even a draw nuts flush/flush. Its a big bet to just call.

Thanks all I think I'll try and think about these hands more often as this really would just be an instant call for me based on me having an overpair if am not paying attention (a reduction in tables may be planned)

I actually like this fold because its very possible someone can have a bigger pair than 10s on this board. Also, the bb might have flopped a set or a really good draw.

If a card over 10 comes on the turn that would screw over your hand too.

I gotta disagree with people here, and feel free to critisize me.

What flop were you hoping for preflop when you called in the first place? Short of a 10 hitting the board this is a good, but not great flop for 10-10.

If you want to argue that you called preflop with the intention of set mining (especially with all the callers) I might agree with you there.

Even with two overs and a flush draw a villian might have 15 outs, but right now they have nothing. You could wait to see what happens on the trun and then reevaluate.

The villians could have trips, but given the range of hands we can put them on I think you can call a bet here and reeval on the turn.

Feel free to flame me, but I think it is possible you let the best hand go on the flop.

looks like top pair, Nut flush draw

Worth calling to see the turn, but then calling the second bet with no club on turn will cost a bit to see the river, think you are ahead and can make this play and win more often then not.

Maybe the bettor slows down on a missed draw turn, gives you the chance to re-evaluate the player and your hand, and maybe take down the pot with out seeing the river.

$2.70, think it is worth is to see the turn. your two outs don't give the flush, so making your hand on the turn will pretty much pay off, especially if it is set over set...

If you get lucky, set over set, and no flush or straight on the board I see $50+ for the taking on a $3.50 investment, going three ways into the turn, most likely a check from your opponents unless they are protecting their TP, or two pair flop

I dont mind the fold at all, but sometimes i would call here to see if he fires again on the turn. If he does, than you can make the fold

How do you feel about 3betting TT pf out of the small blind? You're ahead of MP's range, and CO's call can be a lot of things, from a flatted strong hand down to a weak sc/small pp hand.

As played, I doubt the flop hit either of them very hard, but you're set mining with the TT, and without the set, being OOP with a call from CO to MP's cbet is not an attractive situation.

Mamushi said:

What flop were you hoping for preflop when you called in the first place? Short of a 10 hitting the board this is a good, but not great flop for 10-10..

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This is the sort of flop I was hoping for but of course I have to take my opponents actions into account.
I was intending to stay in the pot if the pf raiser C-bet, however the players who cold called preflop have shown intrest in the pot which is alot more significant.
This makes me think that either draws or sets are out there. Sure T9 and 98 are possibilities but I am out of position and I really want to avoid playing a pot against a draw or set here.
The draw I will be a slight favourite yet I will not get to charge them for their draw as I'll obviusly need to pot control this.
The set I'm am obviusly dead to and pocketpairs are a very solid part of a player who cold called a preflop raises range.

slycbnew said:

How do you feel about 3betting TT pf out of the small blind? You're ahead of MP's range, and CO's call can be a lot of things, from a flatted strong hand down to a weak sc/small pp hand.

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This is something I'd consider depending on MPs stats. As it happened MP was a little on the nitty side so I opted to call, the main intention being to set mine but to win a small pot with a decent flop and good circumstances, this is a good flop but the circumstances are not what i see as being good.

Deco said:

This is something I'd consider depending on MPs stats. As it happened MP was a little on the nitty side...

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Sorry, I took BB's stats to be MP's stats, duh...

OOP sucks, agree your chances of being ahead here aren't great. Headsup, I'd be inclined to continue even OOP (BB will show up with TPTK/55-88 enough, I think, especially with the donk bet), but a fold makes sense to me here with CO calling behind, for all the reasons you gave.

I don't hate a raise here, though. I think BB's behind, and there's a good chance CO is floating the flop with a draw. If I raise, I'm not going to credit any move by BB because of the donk bet, but I'm going to give up to aggression from CO.

Is that just too much spew?

Calling's the only play that makes me really unhappy here. IMO, fold > raise > call