$25 NLHE 6-max: 99 Q high flop

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PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $89.77 (VPIP: 31.82, PFR: 25.76, 3Bet Preflop: 4.55, hands: 68)
SB: $41.60 (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 128)
BB: $16.27 (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 10.26, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 78)
UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 19.35, PFR: 17.20, 3Bet Preflop: 8.11, Hands: 98)
MP: $63.58 (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 71)
Hero (CO): $40.89

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9:spade: 9:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.85, fold, SB raises to $2.50, fold, Hero calls $1.65

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) Q:club: 3:spade: 7:spade:
SB bets $1.70, Hero calls $1.70

Turn: ($8.65, 2 players) 3:diamond:
SB checks, Hero bets $5.51, SB calls $5.51

River: ($19.67, 2 players) T:club:
SB checks, Hero checks



So he 3bets me, because at this stage I was folding too much to 3bets, I could argue a 4bet here I believe but I wasn't fast enough to pick up on what was happening until after this hand.

Anyway I call the flop hoping he would cbet most of his range here and when he checks on the turn I'm hoping I was right and tried to take the pot away.

Thoughts?
 
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Tricky spot. These hands probably give me the most trouble. If you feel like you are ahead you should take control of the pot... but 4 betting here only gets him to fold worse hands and he can call with better hands (or 5 bet).

So I think pre flop is okay, but you can also argue for folding. I know it's not fun, but unless you feel you have a pretty good edge on him post flop, folding is not that terrible. Over cards are going to hit the flop a good % of the time and then we are almost doing a guessing game.... But your call is okay pre flop.

Flop - standard call.

Turn - His check is sign of weakness for sure. I like your bet.


River Check - I think you win majority of the time... Only hands that beat you the way he played it are JJ, KQ, QJ, QT, and then spade draws with a T in it. KTss, ATss, JTss... ... maybe 8Tss
-- I don't think you can bet for value here, which you didn't do, but I also think if you bet you turn your hand into a bluff, and may get some of those T's to fold...
 
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This hand looks okay to me. You could 4-bet pre if you respect his postflop game.
 
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Well if he's bullyin, raising all hands 4-bet could fit here, you show to him now that is pretty serious. And the chance to he fold and do not have to show your hand is very good.
 
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I really dislike 4 betting 99 pre myself but to each their own. AP is fine though, I probably check turn myself and decide on river. Probably call reasonable sizings.

What is your reasoning for a 4 bet pre? Value bet or bluff? I feel like if we 4 bet we never get called by worse and we risk getting 5 bet by AK and having to fold the best hand. Call and see a flop. When we 4 bet pre it should be strictly as a bluff or for value and should have a clear plan of either folding to a 5 bet or shipping it in over a 5 bet. If you don't want to do either of these options to a 5 bet, then we should flat pre.
 
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This hand looks okay to me. You could 4-bet pre if you respect his postflop game.

Yeah theres not too many people I'm worried about with post flop. But it's probably just if hes wide might as well end the hand right there and then and move on... immediate ev is always great with no stress
 
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1) I'm not folding to a 5-bet.
2) If we think our opponent is better than us post, we're pretty close to GTO. So it won't lose money, and our steals get more respect later when we're willing to defend our button wide. Super high variance, but whatever. More appealing to me than trying to figure out when to bluff catch for 2-3 streets with 2nd pair.


Players do weird stuff when the 4-5 betting gets heavy. Back when I played online, you could hold a 10%+ 3-bet, and players would start adjusting wrong, while you stick to the chart.
 
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1) I'm not folding to a 5-bet.
2) If we think our opponent is better than us post, we're pretty close to GTO. So it won't lose money, and our steals get more respect later when we're willing to defend our button wide. Super high variance, but whatever. More appealing to me than trying to figure out when to bluff catch for 2-3 streets with 2nd pair.


Players do weird stuff when the 4-5 betting gets heavy. Back when I played online, you could hold a 10%+ 3-bet, and players would start adjusting wrong, while you stick to the chart.


They still mainly adjust bad. Thanks for feedback... i think 4bet is prolly best just cuz we are deep and he will whiff so much on flop we can pick it up there.

I guess if he shoves though and we call we will make a set x amount but often wont need it due to him having Ax
 
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Didn't see the stack depth. This deep, we can't likely call a 5-bet shove, so I'd lean more to just calling/folding to his 3-bet pre.
 
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Look fine. You could argue for a flop raise. When people bet that small at these stakes, the are usually weak, so you're raising for value. Yes, if he shoves his draw it's tricky, but being this deep it's not likely going to happen.

As played, I don't think you should try and turn your hand into a bluff here on the river. Especially w/ how you play and how they might be perceiving you. He probably has JJ/TT and maybe a Qx just baiting you.
 
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