$25 NLHE 6-max: 55 on a 243 board?

BvBrMTW

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I found this a pretty tough spot, MP is a big fish playing 45/8, and the button is playing 14/14.
Now I'm open ended and OOP, plus I don't know what the fish is going to do, (also he seems pretty passive so he has probably hit something on the flop right?)
Is it best to just fold here ? I've only invested 1$ in the pot so maybe I should just fold and avoid any hard decisions later on?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

CO ($9.65)
Button ($25)
SB ($25.17)
Hero (BB) ($55.76)
UTG ($40.30)
MP ($21.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5
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, 5
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1 fold, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Button bets $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, MP calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.10) 2
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, 4
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, 3
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(3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1.50, Button raises to $4, hero?
 
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I'm not getting the right odds to chase my straight indeed, but is there any chance we have the best hand on the flop?
 
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I'm not getting the right odds to chase my straight indeed, but is there any chance we have the best hand on the flop?
Sure but what good does it do you? You hate almost every turn since you have ZERO nut outs. MP can still 3bet. You were set mining and missed. Fold.
 
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Alright, ye that makes sense, gladly I folded and so did MP.
 
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nah man I call and if mp raises I stack especially 3ways, I have 10 outs. 2 for set and 8 for straight, and these are good unless I am against 56 but if money goes in 3ways it will be most likely set vs us vs overpair.

if the positions ware different I would even raise here, if I had position on both.
 
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you can even raise here if I think about it hard, button has an overpair and if he sees you as a reg he will probably fold here because your line is insanely strong here, or you can bluff him on turn, if you raise here and button call and mp folds you kinda have to bet any turn and you will have to shove but it works tons of times against nits like the button.

vs the fish it will be a little harder to play since it's harder to make him fold, so if you raise here you will have to stack off light either on flop or on turn, either way you aren't doing too bad against much unless he flopped a straight which it's possible but I don't think he donk's 1/2 pot with it. I have mp on a draw here a ton of the times. at these stakes (which I play just like you) it seems like the fish bet small on flop, often donk, so they can name their own price with the draws they have, I often raise air even if
I believe they can make a fold.
 
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first of all we lose 2 outs if he has aces,
I hadn't really thought about raising here, And what you say sounds fair, but it's obviously a risky play, and we could be nearly drawing dead, as there's only 1$ invested, Don't you think it's better to avoid trouble?
 
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Haha, well i guess raising's also an option than, so it basically doesn't really matter what I do in this spot?
 
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nah man I call and if mp raises I stack especially 3ways, I have 10 outs. 2 for set and 8 for straight, and these are good unless I am against 56 but if money goes in 3ways it will be most likely set vs us vs overpair.

if the positions ware different I would even raise here, if I had position on both.
No WAY you have 10 outs here! 5s must be discounted because when we make sets they makes straights. Hearts must be discounted because when we make straight they make flushes. Hell the fish could have 57 making even non-heart 6s not outs. Putting more $$s in the pot here is just the same as lighting it on fire.
 
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No WAY you have 10 outs here! 5s must be discounted because when we make sets they makes straights. Hearts must be discounted because when we make straight they make flushes. Hell the fish could have 57 making even non-heart 6s not outs. Putting more $$s in the pot here is just the same as lighting it on fire.

+1. Our equity vs a bet and raise is not good, and we're out of position.

If I have a strong FD I sometimes call with position to induce bad calls from the fish who will have weaker draws and will also pay off when we both hit. We have neither position nor anything but the weakest realistic draw.

I usually lead this flop as a standard though fwiw. Fish calls all gutters, fds, sds, doesn't raise overpairs that often, and the reg will play really straight forward to a lead into 2 people so we just shut down if called/raised unless we improve.
 
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