$25 NLHE 6-max: 3b squeezing a fish UTG open w 3 callers and AQo in the blinds, 3 callers then shove

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$25 NLHE 6-max: 3b squeezing a fish UTG open w 3 callers and AQo in the blinds, 3 callers then shove

EDIT: just realised that PFR'er is MP, but doesnt really make a difference

Dunno if my pre squeeze is standard or what, but not really worried about it. UTG was like a 75/44 megafish. issue is with the button who flatted the initial open then 4b squeeze shoved.

hes a 17/12 over 166 hands with no 3b stat. no real info other than that for this hand except that hes up $10, and is on the taggy side of nitty.

i like getting it in here simply because of all the dead money in the pot. worse case scenario i guess is when he has AK, which i expect to see some of the time but imo im generally flipping here and theres just too much in the pot to pass it up- plus if i call im not expecting anyone else to. nearly fell off my chair when someone else did. i guess i expect him to have 88-QQ most of the time, and AK some of the time but yeha im not really sure...

anyone play this any differently? and what range do we have him on when he flats the intial open instead of squeezing but then 4b squeeze shoves?

poker stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1890534
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MP: $40.00
CO: $36.88
BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $26.85
BB: $16.50
UTG: $17.45

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with A
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Q
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1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, Hero raises to $3.50, BB calls $3.25, MP calls $2.75, CO calls $2.75, BTN raises to $25 all in, Hero raises to $26.85 all in, 2 folds, CO calls $23.35

Flop: ($85.70) 3
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2
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Q
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(3 players - 2 are all in)

Turn: ($85.70) 5
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(3 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($85.70) T
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(3 players - 2 are all in)
 
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villains 4b stat was 17%, so 2% range- however i think its going to be wider in this spot otherwise id obv just fold.

he also folds to 3bs 67% of the time, but thats only 6 samples
 
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I think QQ+ is so unlikely so take the value for a flip and run with it.
 
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ha, just snap call and laugh at villain
 
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^ pretty much exactly what im thinking. even AK seems like itd be rare here...
 
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No 3bet over a 150+ hand sample size is a bit strange, is it not?

I'm not so sure I rule out QQ+/AK from his range here.
 
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definitely, but theres just noway somebody playing that tight wouldnt 3b the top of his range on the button in a squeeze spot imo.
 
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Maybe that's what he's hoping you think.

What is your squeeze stat like in villain's HUD?
 
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Maybe that's what he's hoping you think.

What is your squeeze stat like in villain's HUD?

It's still awful, just because we squeeze/get in AQ doesn't mean he's not seeing a multiway pot and letting multiple villains realize their equity/put more money in with worse against his premium hand the heavy majority of the time.

This is just a rediculously easy stack. Maybe if he had been the first one to flat the UTG open it'd be a fold but no one is the 2nd caller there with AK/QQ+. You're looking at low/medium pairs and maybe occasionally A2s/56s-type hands. Snapcall.
 
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People do weird shit with JJ.
I have took his line live once with AA before. When a guy to my left auto raised 20-30bb's in any muti way limped pot.
 
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my squeeze is 5% but thats over like a 300k hand sample from a lot of lower limits where i didnt bother squeezing anything but premiums/AK, plus ive started squeezing a ton more since altering my 3b game like a fortnight ago. id guesstimate that its about 12-15% in his HUD.

4b guy did have JJ joebob, good guess.
 
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It's still awful, just because we squeeze/get in AQ doesn't mean he's not seeing a multiway pot and letting multiple villains realize their equity/put more money in with worse against his premium hand the heavy majority of the time.

I'm not saying it's not awful, just that there could be reasoning in his mind why he's not 3betting the top of his range. 150+ hands with 0% 3bet is unusual enough for me to wonder if this particular villain ever 3bets pre with premiums or if he tends to just try to hide value... even in spots where he probably shouldn't.
 
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This is fine. You've got unlucky with the CO calling as their range is stronger but their ranges are very unlikely to have KK+ in and probably dont' have AK and QQ in (The CO is more likely to).

The CO if he knows the opener is a big fish should be 3betting anything half decent never mind AK/QQ+. The Btn is calling three way, defo not a spot to flat AK/QQ even if you don;t know the opener is a fish.

Seeing as you've posted this I'm guessing something weirdly strong like AK popped up but ye you defo made the right choice here.
 
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Nah it was JJ for BTN and the CO called with A8s lmao. So it was the right call, and I binked my Q too so all good lol.

But ye, just wanted to make sure it was the right call for future ref. thought it was obv hence making it, but just wasn't sure
 
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Yeah 80% of back raises are TT/JJ 10% KK, 5% AA 5% AQs/AKs.(seems right to me)
And 102% of all percentages are just made the **** up.
 
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