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I'm Running at 18/15/2.2
zblue996 is running at 44.4/0.0/6.0 over 27 hands

pokerstars Game #17114715789: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/04/30 - 23:07:48 (ET)
Table 'Bancilhon' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: fjryals ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Heremenow1 ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 6: zblue996 ($28.55 in chips)
Seat 7: StueyJoo ($18.05 in chips)
Seat 8: DeanoDeano ($30.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ripbon ($25.95 in chips)
zblue996: posts small blind $0.10
StueyJoo: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Ad]
Igor joins the table at seat #1
DeanoDeano: calls $0.25
ripbon: folds
fjryals: calls $0.25
Hero: raises $1.50 to $1.75
Heremenow1: folds
zblue996: calls $1.65
StueyJoo: calls $1.50
DeanoDeano: calls $1.50
fjryals: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Td 7s Qc]
zblue996: checks
StueyJoo: checks
DeanoDeano: checks
fjryals: bets $2
Hero: raises $3.50 to $5.50
zblue996: raises $21.30 to $26.80 and is all-in
StueyJoo: folds
DeanoDeano: folds
fjryals: folds
Hero: ???

Is a call here profitable??? My flop re-raise ok or is it a little small?
 
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Crai, if we were guarenteed to be HU then I call against a 44/0/6 here. His post flop aggression has to be massive. The thing is we havnt closed the action, and we kinda need fjryals stats. Betting at that flop with that kind of pre-flop action is strong, the reraise is just as strong. I don't really want to be playing for stacks in this spot. I think we have gotten our information, ok occsionally we will get AQ but i still think its a reluctant fold.
 
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We have closed the action, Liam. Donk bettor is to our right and folded.

Has villain done similar stuff in the past? His AF is really high but that doesn't necessarily mean he's CRAI with trash. The fact that he's CRAI a bet and a raise also means his range is probably significantly tighter than had you two been HU and he did the same thing.

I think I agree with tenbob here, I probably reluctantly fold this without a good solid read that he's doing this with draws and other marginal hands.
 
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Won't let me edit my post/or can't find edit button

Here are fjryals stats 95.7/0/0.2 over 23 hands and in response to ChuckTs not to sure of his style I was 9 tabling and had only 27 hands on the gentleman/lady, and none of them got to showdown.

Also forgive my ignorance but what is this CRAI that you gentleman speak of?
 
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Based on the info given, villian in fact may be holding Q10 and at this point you are beat and must make a disciplined fold here.
I base this on the fact that he calls alot of hands preflop (44.4), if he had in fact had been holding AQ you may have seen a reraise preflop given his high aggression factor(6).
 
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Missed that the donk better folded Chuck, that what i get for posting late.

Shine he is 44/0/6, which means that that aggression factor is not coming from preflop action since he had yet to raise preflop. Its likely coming from flop/turn/river over-aggression. There is also the possibility that he is trying to isolate the fish playing at 95.7/0/0.2. I still think that this is marginal enough stuff though, and I don't think a call would be all that bad.
 
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I agree with tenbob. He prob didn't hit a set and may be on a higher pair. I think I def make the call and look him up.
 
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i would say it normal too check raise all in with AA and maybe vilian hits sets of qq
 
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i would say it normal too check raise all in with AA and maybe vilian hits sets of qq

Nice call on what he had...


I really wanted to fold this one, but with his post flop agression being so high I figured he could be CRAI with a wide range. So I called and got crushed...

PokerStars Game #17114715789: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2008/04/30 - 23:07:48 (ET)
Table 'Bancilhon' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 3: fjryals ($26.90 in chips)
Seat 4: finalhonor ($24.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Heremenow1 ($17.40 in chips)
Seat 6: zblue996 ($28.55 in chips)
Seat 7: StueyJoo ($18.05 in chips)
Seat 8: DeanoDeano ($30.90 in chips)
Seat 9: ripbon ($25.95 in chips)
zblue996: posts small blind $0.10
StueyJoo: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to finalhonor [As Ad]
Igor joins the table at seat #1
DeanoDeano: calls $0.25
ripbon: folds
fjryals: calls $0.25
finalhonor: raises $1.50 to $1.75
Heremenow1: folds
zblue996: calls $1.65
StueyJoo: calls $1.50
DeanoDeano: calls $1.50
fjryals: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Td 7s Qc]
zblue996: checks
StueyJoo: checks
DeanoDeano: checks
fjryals: bets $2
finalhonor: raises $3.50 to $5.50
zblue996: raises $21.30 to $26.80 and is all-in
StueyJoo: folds
DeanoDeano: folds
fjryals: folds
finalhonor: calls $17.65 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [Td 7s Qc] Q♦
*** RIVER *** [Td 7s Qc Qd] 4♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zblue996: shows [Qs Qh] (four of a kind, Queens)
finalhonor: mucks hand
zblue996 collected $54.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $57.05 | Rake $2.80
Board [Td 7s Qc Qd 4s]
Seat 3: fjryals folded on the Flop
Seat 4: finalhonor mucked [As Ad]
Seat 5: Heremenow1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: zblue996 (small blind) showed [Qs Qh] and won ($54.25) with four of a kind, Queens
Seat 7: StueyJoo (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: DeanoDeano folded on the Flop
Seat 9: ripbon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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QQ is at the very top of his range and I'm really surprised he played it this way. Don't beat yourself up over this one, you played it fine, and the flop is very close with calling/folding.
 
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Agreed. With that kind of preflop stats he doesn't believe in raising preflop so he could have anything, but with that aggression factor I don't think looking him up here is awful.

On the other hand, because he's so loose preflop I would have almost expected two pair.
 
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