.25/.50 HU. Fishy play by me??

Lemlywinks

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Okay so I sat down at the table with this guy about 50 hands ago. Here comes the following hand. I don't have poker tracker or anything like that (yet to buy it) but my reads on the player included:

Raises 3x the BB with position ~ 75-80% of the time, pretty much any two. when he had the position he definitely took the aggressive side and when he had no position was noticeably weaker and more passive. he folded to a re-raise 4/5 times i did re raise him. Lastly, when i looked weak (ie checked) he would occasionally fire rather large bets into the pot to try and take it down.

Enough preface, heres the hand. I feel like HU is so read dependent, that really almost any play can be made depending on your reads. Go easy on me, I am a HU novice

pokerstars Game #22603768214: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/12/03 23:05:28 ET
Table 'Friederike' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: lemlywinks ($42.05 in chips)
Seat 2: SmbSmbSmb ($31.75 in chips)
SmbSmbSmb: posts small blind $0.25
lemlywinks: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lemlywinks [7c As]
SmbSmbSmb: raises $1 to $1.50
lemlywinks: raises $1.50 to $3
SmbSmbSmb: calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [Kd Jc Qs]
lemlywinks: checks
SmbSmbSmb: checks
*** TURN *** [Kd Jc Qs] [Ah]
lemlywinks: checks
SmbSmbSmb: bets $2.50
lemlywinks: calls $2.50
*** RIVER *** [Kd Jc Qs Ah] [3d]
lemlywinks: checks
SmbSmbSmb: bets $7
lemlywinks: ???

I had decided to c/c the turn b/c this bet had been made before in what seemed to be a position bet. If i feel good about TP on a straighty board can I call that bet? I'll post the hand results later
 
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I dont like the minraise 3bet preflop. Your giving him odds to call with any 2 cards. Make it bigger so you can either get some fold equity or help define his range if he calls.

As far as postflop goes, when you check/call the turn on the AKQJ board, hes gotta know you have a piece of that when he bets the river, I would think he would check behind some of his weaker one pair hands. It really looks like he's making a value bet, not a go away bet.
 
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i dont know there would be to many hands out there that could beat you maybe the safe thing to do would be to fold and wait for a better hand to get your money in then again that bet has bluff written all over it you showed conciterable weakness and that is an awful big bet but i still think i would fold
 
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Preflop, I don't like 3 betting mid aces at all, especially not when im 3 betting that small, just flat the raise or fold, or 3 bet bigger if you must.

Just lead out on the flop, if called on flop check/fold turn even if you hit your ace (very generalised obv)

as played, turn play is fine but marginal, more of a sigh call based on the small turn bet, fold to river
 
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Preflop, I don't like 3 betting mid aces at all, especially not when im 3 betting that small, just flat the raise or fold

pls don't fold A7 to someone who is raising 75% of buttons. :p

i don't mind flatting or 3-betting to $5 or so, but minreraising is just about the worst thing you could possibly have done because villain is never folding and so you're going to a flop against someone with a range of 75% of hands in a 3-bet pot out of position which is really horrible. 3-betting to $5 at least narrows his range if he does call, still lets us easily fold to a 4-bet, and will get the average villain to fold a lot of the time if he is raising 3/4 of his buttons. calling is fine too because it controls the size of the pot and our ace is quite well disguised if we hit it.

as played call turn and fold river, but they are awkward decisions you shouldn't have to make in this hand.
 
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Okay so min raise was terrible, i got that. I did it only because a few hands ago he had done his standard raise to $1.50 and I raised to $3 then as well, and he folded. He was literally doing it with pretty much anything I felt.

Anyhow. His bet of $7 just didn't make any sense to me. If I was playing on such a weak, check heavy line, it seems like way too much put in there to try and get me to call. I made the call and villain turned over...
J/8 offsuit.
After that hand he constantly berated me for being a fish and sucking at poker, so I left. I was just wondering how fishy of a play it actually was by me. Now i realize that was an awkward situation though, thanks
 
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nah :)

Maybe your just going insane??
 
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well a,7 i probably call>3bet>fold>>>>>>>>>>min 3 bet

fwiw with a,4, i call>fold>3 bet
 
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Anyhow. His bet of $7 just didn't make any sense to me. If I was playing on such a weak, check heavy line, it seems like way too much put in there to try and get me to call.

How is 2/3 pot too much to be trying to get a call? I rarely bet less than 2/3 on the river. Hell, I've bet double the pot on the river when I put my opponent on top pair, because I thought he was a calling station or he'd make a hero call. Your line of thinking is exactly the reason why it's sometimes good to make big river bets when you want a call. It disguises the hand by adding variety to your play.
 
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How is 2/3 pot too much to be trying to get a call? I rarely bet less than 2/3 on the river. Hell, I've bet double the pot on the river when I put my opponent on top pair, because I thought he was a calling station or he'd make a hero call. Your line of thinking is exactly the reason why it's sometimes good to make big river bets when you want a call. It disguises the hand by adding variety to your play.

Yea I agree. And I have done that exact thing before too....
Guess i just made a rather poor call with good results then?
 
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