200nl 6max: KQ squeeze, turn donk bet

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Villain is a terrible 51/21/2.1 over 50 hands. Haven't seen anything from him in 3bet pots.

Just curious what the hell the donk is supposed to represent on the turn and if you have any alternative lines?

poker stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BB: $199 (99.5 bb)
UTG: $127.85 (63.9 bb)
MP: $213.70 (106.9 bb)
CO: $216 (108 bb)
Hero (BTN): $198.20 (99.1 bb)
SB: $201.75 (100.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Q
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K
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UTG raises to $4, MP calls $4, CO folds, Hero raises to $18, 2 folds, UTG calls $14, MP folds

Flop: ($43) 4
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9
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2
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $27, UTG calls $27

Turn: ($97) 2
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UTG bets $22, Hero ...
 
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He's got A of hearts with a duece of course.
 
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well as weak as it is you can't really do anything but give up. doesn't suprise me fish calls the squeeze, but once s/he calls flop you have to give up since even a stationary fish shows up with something here.

i like the line. I'd probably squeeze a little more to $20 and typically i'd cbet the flop a tiny bet less %wise (most loose pf fish will play fit or fold on flop and especially with a stack like this). Overall you'll be probably putting in about the same amount, but your fe is a little better since the higher squeeze amount has alot more fold equity than the higher cbet amount. It is also more +ev, as, if called, you are playing a bigger pot in position against a fish. That said, there are probably better spots to squeeze seeing as the stack size of the fish means that a stationary player is basically never going to let go of any sort of hand after the flop.
 
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It looks like he could be trying to rep a few things on the turn - A2 is a prime candidate, with or without the flush draw, though A4 and A9 are also possible, figuring there's no way the deuce helped your hand.

It could be a hoover with a made flush too (or a boat, for that matter), or maybe some weird middle / overpair thing.

There's a small part of the villain's range (Ax, middle or overpairs) that we might be able to blow away with a shove, but given the number of hands that beat us and he likely calls with, it'd probably just be spewy. Sucky as it is I think we just have to give this one up.
 
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lol you aren't getting villain to fold anything here let alone overpairs. villain's range is probably primarly any pp and maybe the odd Ahxh hand and maybe ak or something if he is absolutely terrible. What villain is representing doesn't matter all that much, as you have almost no equity in the hand and villain isn't folding anything to a shove when getting almost 4:1.

also a2 is like 0.0000001% of villain's range.
 
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Yeah it's a clear fold. No FE and no hand = no shipppy. I guess I was just curious what the hell takes this line, but I guess that a) against a guy this bad it could be like his whole range and b) it doesn't matter since we can't continue anyways.
 
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I would not cbet this flop vs. a loose fish. You have some high card value and he won't fold anything.

When he leads the turn it means.... absolutely nothing. Experience tells me that this guy could show up with something like AJsd or 56cc. Unfortunately he's shortstacked, so we can only fold or shove. It's gotta be a fold then.
I'd probably shove the nut flush draw.
 
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