$200 NLHE Full Ring: Trips good kicker facing block bet on river

Villain in BB is a weak player, not nitty, (he 5-bet shoved TT UTG vs. cold 4-bet) and, in a ridiculous spot, overcalled with a set (he rivered it) after he was raised on the river on a 1-card straight board (and promptly berated both players for how they played it).

SB, incidentally, is a fairly capable player, will stab if he senses weakness.

It folds to me on button and I raise to $12.
I have about $450,
SB ($350) calls, BB ($260ish) calls

flop: ($36)
SB checks, BB checks, I check.

Turn: ($36)
SB bets $20, BB calls, I raise to $65, SB folds, BB calls.

River: ($286)
BB bets $80 hero????

I don't play these stakes and it's you who gives me advice often so only take my advice lightly but I would probably just bet the flop, especially since BB is a weak player.

I'd also raise turn slightly more, one of them having a flush draw is very possible.
On the river I would just shove all day long. Hard to think of a possible hand that takes this line that beats you, Fours/Threes full are the only combinations I would expect that might take this line by a weak player but I would still shove. Doesn't look like inducing/value bet either as his stack is short relative to pot so he would probably just shove river.

IMO Villain has a polarised range , either 33, 44 or busted draw . Given the fact that if hes bluffing he will fold if you raise river , I would just call the river , I cant really see anything else in his range that he checks flop/ flats turn that will call a raise on the river witch you beat apart from a Q weaker kicker witch is unlikely.

baudib1 said:

flop: ($36)
SB checks, BB checks, I check.

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I'm calling the river it's close as villain is so damned commited but the T aint good, 99 and below are alot less likely to come along, QT and TT are now ahead of us. There isn't enough here to get the 50% equity we need to shove.

{AQ,KQ,FHs, quads} make 18 combos I think.
Q9,Q8 gives us 8 combos JJ probably 3bets given villain previous shipping of TT, Thxh would give us a couple more combos. I'll only shove if villain is one of those huge fish who will play Q5o here.

Deco said:

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I think that he was right to check flop. Only thing that EVER calls here is a boat, or like worse trips/OP sometimes if Villain is super megafishy.

Deco said:

I'm calling the river it's close as villain is so damned commited but the T aint good, 99 and below are alot less likely to come along, QT and TT are now ahead of us. There isn't enough here to get the 50% equity we need to shove.

{AQ,KQ,FHs, quads} make 18 combos I think.
Q9,Q8 gives us 8 combos JJ probably 3bets given villain previous shipping of TT, Thxh would give us a couple more combos. I'll only shove if villain is one of those huge fish who will play Q5o here.

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This is pretty much correct.

Aleksei said:

I think that he was right to check flop. Only thing that EVER calls here is a boat, or like worse trips/OP sometimes if Villain is super megafishy.

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I get in quite a bit of live poker and I have to strongly disagree that players are calling with QTs out of the blinds versus a btn open so that they can check/fold on a Q3Q board to a cbet. Not saying it was necessarily poor to check here.

Aleksei said:

This is pretty much correct.

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8 combos of better trips plus whatever boats you decide to give him. All boats is 18 combos... 14 if you remove Q4o and Q3o, and 12 if QT is the only queens full he's showing up with here (there's a fair chance this is exactly what he has). In any case, I'm flat calling otr against most.

I'd give him close to 0 boat combos, just feel he'd play it differently -- either check-shoving/check-calling a jam or jamming himself.

For those flatting, what hands are you shoving here?
I feel like KQ is a fist-pump shove. My plan on the river was to soul read/decide a non-boat heart and to shove anything else,

As you can tell from the title, I interpreted this little bet as a block bet and after thinking a while, decided to shove.

baudib1 said:

I'd give him close to 0 boat combos, just feel he'd play it differently -- either check-shoving/check-calling a jam or jamming himself.

For those flatting, what hands are you shoving here?
I feel like KQ is a fist-pump shove. My plan on the river was to soul read/decide a non-boat heart and to shove anything else,

As you can tell from the title, I interpreted this little bet as a block bet and after thinking a while, decided to shove.

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It's more which players I am shoving against than which hands. You were the one at the table and if your read on this player is that there's more EV in shoving, that's fine. You rep a lot of strength by checking behind on a paired flop and then raising a brick turn against a bet and a call, so your opponent is pretty bad if KQ is a fist pump jam when he leads otr. As Deco mentions, it has a lot to do with the kind of junk he'll see a flop with in this situation. Suited queens that you're actually beating make up 6 combos while better trips is 8 combos on their own, so he needs a fair bit of Q7o type stuff to feel good about getting it in imo, or he needs to bet/call some pocket pairs on the river here versus your line.

Easy call. Villian either has a boat or is bluffing because you checked the flop, either way, if you raise the small bet you only get called by full houses so this is actually a pretty easy call. The real question is whether or not the villian is capable of a bluff like this, which is up to you since you have been playing with him. Anyways, the small bet gives you a good price so as long as you think he'd bluff this spot some of the time then make the call. My only issue is that your check/raise basically turned your hand face up...yet villain still bet into you after calling the check/raise, so he is either a really unobservant player or he is making a small value bet with a full house.