Weregoat
Visionary
Silver Level
$200 NL HE Full Ring: Set-Mining vs Two Players
All stacks are at 100 BBs.
Villain 1 is UTG+1 (14/11/X, only a couple hundred hands history, don't have fold to 3/4 bet or other relative stats),
Hero is MP,
Villain 2 is CO (15/12/X, couple hundred hands, don't have other relative stats)
Villain 1 raises to $7,
Hero looks at JJ and 3-bets to $17,
Villain 2 4-bets to $36.
Villain 1 calls.
Hero - ?
My thoughts -
Calling to close the action gives us some tasty pot odds (19:92), what kind of flops can we continue? Obviously all players are in for almost one fifth their stack, and on a lot of flops we're all likely to stack off post-flop. I think both players have an overpair.
Logic dictates fold, but folder's remorse would probably tilt me laying down a pot giving me almost 5:1 with a pocket pair with another possible ~$370 likely to be going into the pot after the flop.
I know set-mining is dictated to be valuable when the preflop action is 1/8th of effective stacks or less in a heads-up pot, does that value hold the same for 3-way pots?
Can I fold a set that's likely to not be best?
Am I going to flop J-high and get paid?
Curious on some of the other players takes are on the hand. I've run it by a couple IRL poker buddies to get responses more in line with how I played the hand, but want some contradicting opinions as well...
Thanks in advance, WG.
All stacks are at 100 BBs.
Villain 1 is UTG+1 (14/11/X, only a couple hundred hands history, don't have fold to 3/4 bet or other relative stats),
Hero is MP,
Villain 2 is CO (15/12/X, couple hundred hands, don't have other relative stats)
Villain 1 raises to $7,
Hero looks at JJ and 3-bets to $17,
Villain 2 4-bets to $36.
Villain 1 calls.
Hero - ?
My thoughts -
Calling to close the action gives us some tasty pot odds (19:92), what kind of flops can we continue? Obviously all players are in for almost one fifth their stack, and on a lot of flops we're all likely to stack off post-flop. I think both players have an overpair.
Logic dictates fold, but folder's remorse would probably tilt me laying down a pot giving me almost 5:1 with a pocket pair with another possible ~$370 likely to be going into the pot after the flop.
I know set-mining is dictated to be valuable when the preflop action is 1/8th of effective stacks or less in a heads-up pot, does that value hold the same for 3-way pots?
Can I fold a set that's likely to not be best?
Am I going to flop J-high and get paid?
Curious on some of the other players takes are on the hand. I've run it by a couple IRL poker buddies to get responses more in line with how I played the hand, but want some contradicting opinions as well...
Thanks in advance, WG.