$200 NLHE Full Ring: Semi-Bluff hits oop, how do we get value?

$200 NL HE Full Ring: Semi-Bluff hits oop, how do we get value?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 12/9/5

ok title says it all. I semi-bluff raise flop and we turn the nuts. What line is best here to extract value? Keep betting? C/R? C/C? What if we bet and he calls and board pairs? What if we check and he checks behind and board pairs? What if we C/C and board pairs? How do we play if we take any of those lines and the river comes a 5th spade? What kind of range do we put our opponent on at this point? TPTK? Sets? From my read I basically expect him to have one of the two a lot once he calls flop. Maybe he flats with a flush? Maybe pair and FD or SD and FD?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed)

CO ($203.75)
Button ($50)
SB ($199.45)
BB ($214.45)
Hero (UTG) ($200)
UTG+1 ($107.40)
MP1 ($249.50)
MP2 ($210.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , K
Hero bets $8, 3 folds, CO calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, 1 fold

Flop: ($26) Q , 6 , 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $16, 1 fold, Hero raises to $42, CO calls $26

Turn: ($110) J (2 players)

This is a scary one I have seen this too many times on Fulltilt. Some how the other player has at least 1 of the str8 flush cards and often 9 10 of spades is a hand that will be played out. I mention this because I wonder if value is really what you want here? If the river comes 9 or 10 of spades it could be ugly. I would say you should bet at least the $42 again If he raises think it over hard. I doubt this helps but had to say something.

Is he tricky enough to try to bluff here?

I think I make it about half pot, hoping he will pull the trigger and shove. Also gives you some value from Ks (which is probably not folding anyway at anypoint) and who knows what else he will talk himself into calling with.

So yeah, betting to induce a raise.

i would bet about 60% of the pot and hope for a raise.. then shove

zachvac said:

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 12/9/5

ok title says it all. I semi-bluff raise flop and we turn the nuts. What line is best here to extract value? Keep betting? C/R? C/C? What if we bet and he calls and board pairs? What if we check and he checks behind and board pairs? What if we C/C and board pairs? How do we play if we take any of those lines and the river comes a 5th spade? What kind of range do we put our opponent on at this point? TPTK? Sets? From my read I basically expect him to have one of the two a lot once he calls flop. Maybe he flats with a flush? Maybe pair and FD or SD and FD.

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what the hell, I'll take a shot. I'm not really up on my stats but that looks like super tight aggressive (may be wrong) and with the draws out there, I'm thinking he has KK with king of spades, so I'd probably check raise the turn. With his af i would think he'll keep firing at you, and if you check first he might put you on a smaller spade and just keep pushing. And stats seem way tight for him to be making plays w/suited gapped connectors, so not worried about the str8 flush, and the board isnt paired yet so I'm not worrying about the boat either. Cross that bridge when it gets there. Who am I to say though...I'd probably go broke.lol

Not sure. If he's holding TPTK then any bet will probably force him out, cause the 4th spade will have definitely killed the action if that's the case. But I think you have to bet to get value out of sets or the K of spades. I'd probably be betting 1/2 pot expecting him to fold. If not another 1/2 pot on the river, assuming the board doesn't pair.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario. You're looking for a set or KQ/KK with the K of spades, ideally. They're the only hands you're getting more money out of and they make up a significant part of his range I think. I think checking is too big a risk, unless you think there's a better than average chance he'll bluff at the turn, that's the only reason I'd be checking.

I would say a little under half the pot. The logic behind it is you want the opponent to think you're scared, and maybe his lesser flush could be good. On the river bet slightly over half to really confuse him. The thought of you being weak on the turn will make him more likely to call a larger river bet. I don't like a check raise as it kills action for 5th street unless you end up behind!

Oh and with the pro semi-bluff, they likely won't give you credit for the ace anyways. You'll likely get paid by any set/low flush