$200 NLHE Full Ring: QQ OOP

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Hi guys here is another QQ sticky situation at a 200NL live cash game. Thanks in advance for your input!

The effective stacks were $80 "my stack"

I was UTG holding Q:diamond: Q:heart:

I raised to $10. It folds around to the BTN who calls. SB and BB both fold.

The flop comes: 10:diamond: 10:heart: 9:heart:

I bet $30. BTN shoves
 
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So some helpful advice, know what you're going to do before you bet to each scenario (call, raise, shove, etc..).

You put 50% of your stack in now, do you think you can fold?
 
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Why are you sat with $80 at a 200nl game?

You have no decision you only have $40 left get it in the middle.
 
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Why are you sat with $80 at a 200nl game?

You have no decision you only have $40 left get it in the middle.

Because I just lost a big hand with QQ prior to this hand.
 
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So some helpful advice, know what you're going to do before you bet to each scenario (call, raise, shove, etc..).

You put 50% of your stack in now, do you think you can fold?

I bet $30 to get it all-in if villain shoves. After my bet, I was getting 3 to 1 which was pretty close to my equity against villain's range.
 
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I bet $30 to get it all-in if villain shoves. After my bet, I was getting 3 to 1 which was pretty close to my equity against villain's range.

So what was your question then? Why did you post the hand?
 
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As someone else said, you shouldn't be sitting there with $80 in a $200 game.

Reload.

As for the situation, obviously you call. Villains range could have a bunch of draws in it, 9x hands, PPs, etc.

It seems like you answered your own question. I have to ask why did you post the hand (also).
 
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Throw all your chips at the pot
 
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So what was your question then? Why did you post the hand?

I posted the hand to get some feedback on my play. Was it well played? Could I have done something differently?
 
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As someone else said, you shouldn't be sitting there with $80 in a $200 game.

Reload.

As for the situation, obviously you call. Villains range could have a bunch of draws in it, 9x hands, PPs, etc.

It seems like you answered your own question. I have to ask why did you post the hand (also).


I posted the hand to get some feedback on my play. Was it well played? Could I have done something differently?
 
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We cannot judge the hand perfectly without info on other player(s), in the given situation I am wondering about the betsizing, but probably perfectly normal in live game. Overbetting flop also, is your target to make the opponent fold? You are committed so most likely a call then, unless you saw this player playing 2 hours supernitty and shoving only with aces or nuts.
But ok, they might also consider you tilted if you just lost a big hand, that might be the reasoning for overbetting as well.
 
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We cannot judge the hand perfectly without info on other player(s), in the given situation I am wondering about the betsizing, but probably perfectly normal in live game. Overbetting flop also, is your target to make the opponent fold? You are committed so most likely a call then, unless you saw this player playing 2 hours supernitty and shoving only with aces or nuts.
But ok, they might also consider you tilted if you just lost a big hand, that might be the reasoning for overbetting as well.

I made that play to eventually get all the money in on the flop. My opponent was playing loose at the table so his range was wide. I wanted to know if this was a good play in this situation. Would you have done something differently? I basically want to evaluate this hand from different perspectives.
 
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Hi guys here is another QQ sticky situation at a 200NL live cash game. Thanks in advance for your input!

The effective stacks were $80 "my stack"

I was UTG holding Q Q

I raised to $10. It folds around to the BTN who calls. SB and BB both fold.

The flop comes: 10 10 9

I bet $30. BTN shoves
I think you played this hand poorly. The villain could have a wide range especially if you said they were playing loose. The villain could have a ten or possibly T9. The villain could also possibly have AA or KK. However the villain could have a drawing hand. The only thing that you can possibly do is hope for a 2 out queen or possibly hit a straight. If you play bigger stacks you wouldn't have to bet so much to get information. I think in this spot you have to assume you are beat.
 
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I don't think I'll ever condone betting more than is in the pot. It just doesn't make sense to me and can be a dead giveaway (some players may do it when they're only weak, and some may do it when they're only strong). Betting $15 or $20 accomplishes the same here, and you will have committed less than half your stack and may be able to get away from the hand if need be. In this hand, you have to call the shove because of your stack size and villain's possible range.

SIDE NOTE. Don't play with only $80. Buy in full when you first sit down, and if you lose half of it, either reload to max buy in or walk away. If you only intend on losing one buy-in, you should still reload and just walk away when you are back to $100 again. Playing with such a short stack affects your game and how everyone will play against you.
 
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I posted the hand to get some feedback on my play. Was it well played? Could I have done something differently?

If this is your typical live game, bet a little bigger preflop.

You post flop bet is a little too much IMO. Shoot for 3/4 pot.

As for villain shoving... he doesn't do this with a flopped boat (rarely). Exclude 9-10.

Exclude AA and KK.

Bulk of his range is going to be draws/combo draws. You could be flipping here.

The shove just looks like a draw or 9x to me.


Now you asked if you played well, what could you do differently, etc.


Don't sit there with 40 BBs. Reload.
 
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If this is your typical live game, bet a little bigger preflop.

You post flop bet is a little too much IMO. Shoot for 3/4 pot.

As for villain shoving... he doesn't do this with a flopped boat (rarely). Exclude 9-10.

Exclude AA and KK.

Bulk of his range is going to be draws/combo draws. You could be flipping here.

The shove just looks like a draw or 9x to me.


Now you asked if you played well, what could you do differently, etc.


Don't sit there with 40 BBs. Reload.

I raised to 5xBB which is my standard raise at a 1/2 live cash game. I can't bet more or less based on the strength of my hand as it is a serious tell to observant players. Also, if I open pre-flop for $15 or $20 I might not get action and if I do and miss I am out 15 to 20 BB while 10BB would have served the same purpose. Villain showed 99 for a flopped boat
 
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I don't think I'll ever condone betting more than is in the pot. It just doesn't make sense to me and can be a dead giveaway (some players may do it when they're only weak, and some may do it when they're only strong). Betting $15 or $20 accomplishes the same here, and you will have committed less than half your stack and may be able to get away from the hand if need be. In this hand, you have to call the shove because of your stack size and villain's possible range.

SIDE NOTE. Don't play with only $80. Buy in full when you first sit down, and if you lose half of it, either reload to max buy in or walk away. If you only intend on losing one buy-in, you should still reload and just walk away when you are back to $100 again. Playing with such a short stack affects your game and how everyone will play against you.

If I had a full stack then I possibly could have gotten away from the hand but as played I was def priced in to call the shove. Thanks for the insight!
 
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you are already commited on the flop, you HAVE to call. I don't now your gamestyle, but i don't like playing cash with only 40bb. You should have reloaded, or get up of the table and leave with your 80$
 
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