$200 NLHE Full Ring: new to cash. heres some live hands for review

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this is a live $1/2 table at our local card room that has a $5 button straddle (SB has to act first when button straddles).

so I'm a tourney player and I've only played cash about 15 times and generally lost my ass bluffing. I promised myself to attempt to value bet these calling stations instead of getting tricky.

Hand #1

My stack is about $200 (100bb) I button straddle for $5. We get 4 flats including both blinds. I have QsTs and make it $25. SB flats everyone else folds.

Pot $65 flop Jd9d8c. BINK!

SB donks for $35. he has about $80 behind. I jam he calls with AdQh and I hold.

questions: iso-ing on button with QTs is ok?
I think the flop play is obvious. try to extract max from flush draws and 2 pair/sets.

Hand #2
later I have about $440 (220 bbs). I button straddle again. 3 flats and the HJ makes it $15. With this tiny bet and the way he's been playing I'm positive he has a monster. He has about $225 to start hand (112bb).

I'm on button I have 7h3h. I'm getting direct odds of 3.5:1 right now and can expect a couple calls behind giving me potentially 6.5:1 direct with implied odds where I pretty much know where I stand vs his range. So I make the call. I'm not happy about it but it seems right.

pot has $75 flop AhAc9h. it checks to the raiser he bets $15. I'm now pretty positive he has KK and he's trying to flush out the ace for cheap or take it down. I flat with my flush draw, with plans to potentially bluff him off his KK later. but the SB is a very tight straightforward lady and she flats. I'm now positive she has an Ace. turn is a Jd and she leads 80% pot. we both fold and the raiser shows KK to his neighbor.

questions: is the button call ok with such a weak hand vs such a strong perceived range?

if the lady hadn't come along I should barrell turn and river regardless of hearts, right? despite the fact that I had promised myself to value bet and not bluff....this would be a good spot to bluff I think...?

Hand #3
I have about $900 to start (450bb). EP limps off a stack of about $75 he is tight passive and limp/calls a lot. MP limps (he is loose passive and limps a lot). I have Kc9c in CO and raise to $10. EP calls MP folds (really weird limp/fold there IMO but whatever).

pot contains $25. flop Ah9hTc

SB checks. I decide this flop smashes his range, I've been Cbetting a ton so I check back some showdown value with backdoor clubs.

Turn 9d. he checks I bet $15 he jams for a total of about $60 obviously I snap. he has A8o and I hold.

questions: iso-ing with K9s is Ok here? usually they're both calling so I'm just inflating a pot in position with a marginal hand and the betting lead.

checking back the flop? what do we think? I think I'm getting check raised or check called a lot. but I'm basically hoping the deck bails me out when I check behind. or maybe get to a cheap showdown and he has 55-88 or something.
 
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Kk never folding there with 80% pot bet... if u had an ace ur never flatting so bluffing there is just very bad n ur not repping anything except boat or pure air.

I think calling light like ur low suited is bad in fullring because you will either win small pots or lose big to bigger flushes.

K9s if u think u can get folds 3betting sure pre... but dont get over sticky and just be watchful because some will adjust. But if u can adjust before they do thats where the real money is
 
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Kk never folding there with 80% pot bet... if u had an ace ur never flatting so bluffing there is just very bad n ur not repping anything except boat or pure air.

I think calling light like ur low suited is bad in fullring because you will either win small pots or lose big to bigger flushes.

K9s if u think u can get folds 3betting sure pre... but dont get over sticky and just be watchful because some will adjust. But if u can adjust before they do thats where the real money is

well the KK did fold to an 80% pot bet....but it was from a very tight very straightforward lady and it was pretty obvious she had an ace.

but I take your point....he's not going to react to ME the same way as her...I've been an active table captain. He'll probably call me down with KK.

yeah....I wasn't really sure about flatting with that 73s there.... that was probably my biggest question from the whole session.

thanks for your response! :)
 
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well the KK did fold to an 80% pot bet....but it was from a very tight very straightforward lady and it was pretty obvious she had an ace.

but I take your point....he's not going to react to ME the same way as her...I've been an active table captain. He'll probably call me down with KK.

yeah....I wasn't really sure about flatting with that 73s there.... that was probably my biggest question from the whole session.

thanks for your response! :)

Np youve helped me greatly in the past and whenever i play tournaments i still use your tips
 
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H1) I would tend to bet bigger with 4 limpers but if your raises were getting you HU then I'm OK with $25. But in these squeeze spots I like to get more value especially when I have position.

H2) If your confident on your reads then I don't mind this but watch out as these hands have a much larger reverse implied odds. You may want to track some of these and see if they're +EV in your games.

H3) Again I like a larger raise size here, $15. Agree with the no-cbet decision.
 
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Hand 1 you played absolutely correct... No idea what the issue you felt with it was. You played that 100% optimal.

Hand 2 the lady calling should make you fold, clearly you are good at reading people so why are you calling if you are after her and had that solid read?

Hand 3 was a donk call for you to make unless that player is very loose normally.
 
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Hand 1 you played absolutely correct... No idea what the issue you felt with it was. You played that 100% optimal.

my Only question really the ISO and sizing. I suppose there are other flop lines...but I was good with my flop play

Hand 2 the lady calling should make you fold, clearly you are good at reading people so why are you calling if you are after her and had that solid read?

she check called from SB. So I called in position before I had the read that she had an ace. Once she called I was done with the hand unless a heart came. I would not have called if she called in between us

Hand 3 was a donk call for you to make unless that player is very loose normally.
You think it was a donk call for me to call his small shove on the turn when I had trips? Maybe you didn't see that I turned trip 9s...

My responses in red. Thanks for chiming in...I'm not trying to be overly defensive I do want to learn and improve!
 
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My responses in red. Thanks for chiming in...I'm not trying to be overly defensive I do want to learn and improve!
Ok sorry I didn't realize the turn was 9, I thought you snap called with pair of nines there.

In that case, why not raise a little on the river? If he has the balls to raise you at river then sure assume he hit fullhouse on you but why you checked the river?
 
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Ok sorry I didn't realize the turn was 9, I thought you snap called with pair of nines there.

In that case, why not raise a little on the river? If he has the balls to raise you at river then sure assume he hit fullhouse on you but why you checked the river?

He was playing short so he check-shoved the turn. I called the shove there was no river action.
 
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Hi Missjacki

Hand #1
Yes, iso-ing with QTs is ok. You want to punish them for limping and try to pick up the dead money, also you want to play head ups preferably instead of playing a 5 way.
Flop play us great considering the stack size and his donk size!

Hand #2
I would not recommend calling with 73hh preflop. The realisation factor of your cards are really low.
Your flushes will always be dominated and he will refrain from playing for big stacks if the flush hits and he doesn’t make a flush.
Good preflop strategy helps to make better decision postflop. Even if you have specific reads, and keep playing hands like 73s, you will maintain a very lose image at the table and in the long-run you will not make this hand profitable.

Hand #3
I like your preflop play following with flop checking
Preflop: K9s will play well against them, so good hand to iso with
Flop check: you don’t need protection bet there, and you don’t want to get jammed by flush draws
-additionally, you can bluff catch one street if he decides to lead the turn or river.

Great hands,
I like the way you posted the hand histories - easy to read

Good luck!
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Jacki Burkhart

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Hi Missjacki

Hand #1
Yes, iso-ing with QTs is ok. You want to punish them for limping and try to pick up the dead money, also you want to play head ups preferably instead of playing a 5 way.
Flop play us great considering the stack size and his donk size!

Hand #2
I would not recommend calling with 73hh preflop. The realisation factor of your cards are really low.
Your flushes will always be dominated and he will refrain from playing for big stacks if the flush hits and he doesn’t make a flush.
Good preflop strategy helps to make better decision postflop. Even if you have specific reads, and keep playing hands like 73s, you will maintain a very lose image at the table and in the long-run you will not make this hand profitable.

Hand #3
I like your preflop play following with flop checking
Preflop: K9s will play well against them, so good hand to iso with
Flop check: you don’t need protection bet there, and you don’t want to get jammed by flush draws
-additionally, you can bluff catch one street if he decides to lead the turn or river.

Great hands,
I like the way you posted the hand histories - easy to read

Good luck!
-Andrew Dee-
Practical poker strategies to win online
Udemy | Couponcode=POKER123

Thanks for your response!
 
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Hand #1
I’m no live player but what I have understood games are like 5-10NL regular online. So when hero bluffs QTs, he is waiting at least one caller, mostly 2 callers, creating low SPR game with hand that works against callers only in high SPR plays. Yes we have a position to create huge pot when we hit, but low SPR this most important advantage against fish is useless. Also straddlers are always light, and they know it, yes?

I don’t think there is too much wrong to iso (except we don't have a named target!), just that the play is mostly frustrating experience, and has no advantages against fish compared to hitting first punishing second. Also hands like ATs, KTs would also give nice TP experience time to time, and top pair is never too overrated against fish.
 
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