$200 NLHE Full Ring: Maximizing value from flopped straight

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Hi guys I recently played a hand at a 1/2 NL live table where I flopped a straight and would like some feedback on the best play to maximize value from my holdings.

Stack sizes:
Hero(BB): $200
UTG+1: $150
MP1: $100


5 players limp including the SB and myself in the BB.

The flop comes: 3:heart: 4:spade: 5:club: $10 in pot

SB checks. Hero (BB) bets $8. UTG+1 and MP1 call. The SB folds.

The turn brings a K:spade: $34 in pot

Hero(BB) bets $25 ....

Now given that UTG+1 and MP1 are loose passive players could you possibly check the turn and hope they improve on the river to where they can call my value bet? I tend to always bet whenever there is a flush draw on the board especially in a multi-way pot and even heads up. It is unlikely that either villain has a backdoor flush draw given the action but it is always a possibility. I would hate to check the turn and lose to a flush on the river knowing that I could have bet the turn myself and prevented that from happening or at least punished them for calling with incorrect pot odds.

Thanks in advance for the feedback guys!
 
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Well we don't know if you have A2 or 67 and whether you have any spades. It all makes a difference to the analysis of the hand.
I've lost enough flopped straights in my time to learn to get the money in early to put off the draws. The K is a decent card for your hand which may hit someone with overcards. Are you calling 3/4 pot here with KQ,,,, almost certainly.
Keep betting large to properly charge the draws to chase and get value from Kx then pray the board doesn't pair or that the dreaded third spade comes on the river. Slow playing this hand may win you an extra bet or two but may also mean you lose the pot....
 
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Well since two players called your flop bet there is absolutely no reason to not bet the turn. You have to bet strong here whether they call or not is a different thing. If only one player had called then you could check turn to trap but with two players as you said one of them could have a flush draw, a set or a higher straight draw also known as a gutshot. So you would want to make them pay if they wish to see another card. Checking therefore in my mind will clearly be a bad idea.
 
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Now given that UTG+1 and MP1 are loose passive players could you possibly check the turn and hope they improve on the river to where they can call my value bet?
I bet the turn. There are two of them and they're loose, so I can probably expect at least one caller, and I still have the chance to extract more value on the river. Checking limits me to only getting value on the river, and there's no guarantee either will call then.
 
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Of course bet that on the turn. Really wish I knew if you had 67 or A2. That does make big difference. I wouldnt want to give them a free card though to improbe their hand. I mean what if someone called your flop bet with a gutshot looking for a 6. Them having 78. You don't wanna just give them a free card to make a better straight then you.
 
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Your bet is fine since its the point where they will either call or fold in case they are drawing.

I would be satisfied in taking the pot now.
 
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if you want max value then just be a really solid poker player and bet for value 3 times. Checking the nuts is generally the worst thing you can do and should be done sparingly and never against unknowns. I would be more inclined to call somebody that 3 barreled that type of board then some super donk who checked turn and overbets river.
 
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You bet this turn always because:

1) They have many draws in their range that will not pay when they miss the river.
2) They have many made hands (A5, 88, ect.) that will not put in additional money when a scare card hits the river.

In this situation, no matter the action before you, it's almost always advantageous to bet for value and to wait for the river to bluff.
 
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