$200 NLHE Full Ring: Live hand: Bottom set, multi way, how to maximize?

$200 NL HE Full Ring: Live hand: Bottom set, multi way, how to maximize?

Live table 1/2 NL
Playing for about 3 hours
My image has been pretty tight, haven't shown down any hands, table saw me call villan's all in on river w/ 99 on A734Tr board

HERO SB $250
Villan UTG $500
Villan MP $90
Villan CO $300

My analysis of villans:

UTG - playing very snug, won a couple hands and has been sitting back, pretty tight/ABC

MP - spewy, saw him 3 bet shove QTs on AQ4r board

CO - Station, sees a lot of flops, haven't seen anything amazing about his play yet.

Villan UTG raises $15
Villan MP calls $15
Villan CO calls $15
HERO SB 9c9h calls $15

FLOP: $62

Flop: Kd Jd 9s

HERO checks, Villan UTG bets $40, Villan MP shoves all in $90, 1 fold
HERO.... ????


Anyone like flatting here? Or just 3-bet shove over the MP all-in and hope I don't get snapped by KK/JJ???

The hands I've given MP to shove would be any KQ/KT, 2-pair combination, any Axs-9xs and of course QT. I don't think he would have a higher set here, ever.

Villan UTG's range is a bit tighter probably looks more like TT+/ATs+/AJo+
I feel that the only hands that would call my all in shove would be KK/JJ/AQs-ATs every other hand folds. Ideally he'll over-call with AA/AK, but I don't see that happening. I don't see him c-betting QQ/TT here. So really his range is more like ....AA/KK/AK/JJ/AQs-ATs.


How do you guys feel about this? Plan for rest of hand also?

I'd just shove over the top.

Yea QQ and TT likely arent cbetting this flop into this many opponents so straights may not worry you that much, but villain could have AQ/AT of diamonds, in addition if villain does have a AA/AK type hand straight completing turns can kill your action and force both of you to slow down. Shove and get called by big draws, AA AK KJ (in addition to coolers KK and JJ obv). If you think villain will chuck AA and AK to shoves, flatting is ok hoping he'll call behind you and then maybe even lead a blank turn putting you on a draw at which point you shove. You also shove if checked to on blank turns to potnetially fold out big draws like AQdd ATdd

I'm often leading wet boards with monsters. We trap KQ/AK/AA/KJ/FDs/pair+gutshot hands etc into flatting whereas they might not cbet when checked to, and we prevent them from seeing a scare card or a card that improves their hand.

I think c/r is fine too as you have perfect relative position to the PFR (ie you check, PFR bets, often others just flat behind, trapping dead money in the middle, and we raise). If the PFR was to your right I'd say it was a mandatory lead.

As played I probably just jam too. Flush draws, top pairs and overpairs don't fold in live poker, plus our shove looks like a draw trying to get the most fold equity as possible, so we could get looked up lighter than if we c/r small and potentially scare away KT or something.

Calling still seems super-strong and you let them draw for free. You have a strong hand on a drawy board, just stick it in.

I agree with the shove on the flop. If you run into a straight you've still got outs.

I'd peg one player for a pair and a gutshot and the other for a FD.

Even against a flopped straight you're still ~14-15% to improve on the turn and ~20-21% to improve on the river.

As weird as it sounds, I fold here. This is a beyond draw heavy board, strong UTG has shown strength both pre and on flop out of position, and then spewy pushes. Could easily have Q10, big diamond draw, set over set. If you truly want to get in with it though, you have to push. Like I said, too many draws to contend with

Henreiman said:

As weird as it sounds, I fold here. This is a beyond draw heavy board, strong UTG has shown strength both pre and on flop out of position, and then spewy pushes. Could easily have Q10, big diamond draw, set over set. If you truly want to get in with it though, you have to push. Like I said, too many draws to contend with

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There is no draw that we are not a favorite against. Thanks to our redraw even a combo draw is a dog to us.

UTG might have set over set, but the short stack surely pushes pre with an overpair.

If the read is right and he is a strong player he wont be raising utg with Q10, probably no KJ either. if it is JJ or KK then i take the pproach usually that if you get done set over set then its not meant to be your day.

Ok well,

villan would almost never have QT in this spot like I said, his been playing snug, only playing good starting hands.

There is a chance the small stack could have QT, but at this point i'm almost never folding my hand, and if villan has KK/JJ its a cooler, life goes on.

I thought about this a lot, and I figured against another player, or if I was a little more shallow with my stack I would have just shoved.

I ended up flatting. Villan also flatted behind me.

Turn 2c

I led for all-in. Villan folds AKo face up.

River 4c

All shows Ad9d pair of 9s
Hero shows 9 9 set of 9s