$200 NLHE Full Ring: Live game, flopped set on monotone board

$200 NL HE Full Ring: Live game, flopped set on monotone board

Table is loosy goosy, few tight players, most are loose/aggressive, but by no means good players thinking players. Table is decently deep couple 300BB stacks, everyone playing with full stacks. Gamblor central.

My table image is tight solid, only shown down one hand was A7s flopped TP2P vs bottom set.

Villan is from out of town, younger and couple buyins stuck. LAGgy, impatient.
BTN is loose aggressive, stuck a couple buyins and on tilt. Bad player.

EFFECTIVE STACKS $200.

Straddle is ON.
HERO has 6h 6d

UTG calls $4
HERO CO calls $4
BTN raises to $10
VILLAN SB calls $9
BB calls $8
Straddle calls $6
UTG calls $6
HERO CO calls $6

PF - I love to call this hand PF in a multi way pot, hoping to flop big and stack some of the looser players that are in. Didn't feel there was a lot of fold equity in raising and isolating since the players were calling wayyy too wide.

FLOP POT ($60)
Ac Qc 6c
4 checks, HERO checks, BTN checks

FLOP- obviously i'm going for a CR on this flop, looking for the bad laggy originally raiser to bet and maybe trap a couple of the limpers in the pot, didni't work.

TURN 4h ($60)
SB bets $25, 3 folds, HERO calls $25, BTN folds

RIVER Kd ($110)
SB bets $60, HERO calls $60

Ok, so at any point is a raise justified? I figure even a bad player would not stack off a single ace on this board, but I could be wrong. I was confused, VILLAN is pretty tilty as well, having just losing a couple pots and just rebought in.


Anyone play this a bit differently? Are we playing for stacks on this flop?
Thoughts opinions please.

If the plan was to c/r the flop. What changes on the turn? That turn certainly does not change anything.

I'd probably just bet the flop myself despite our bad relative position. We could get value out of high clubs as well as Aces or a combo of the two and we don't really want this getting checked through 6 handed and there is only one player left even though it is the PFR we can't always expect a cbet 6 handed. Yea he's betting Ax every time here but...

As far as the turn goes I'd raise. If villain had bet a little more (like $35 or more) I'd just call, but for this little bet I'd pop it there since most of the time single clubs will continue if they have a pair to go with it, and people at low stake live NL will generally not give you credit for a big hand since you checked almost last to act on the flop... yea if you get shoved on it's a pretty bad spot but we'd be invested enough to warrant a call.

As played, I'd call the river.

I felt that by CR the flop I could get the dead money from the BTN who C-bets/limpers calling etc. Felt I could get flat calls from single club hands, and if I had to get it in from the flop it wouldn't have been so bad if I was beat against a flush.

On the turn I wasn't expecting SB to lead, and I felt that if he had bet into 5 ppl he'd have something decent, not sure how strong, his range is still wide.

I felt that if I raised, he'd had given me credit for a flush and fold most hands that I beat. However, I feel that he would flat call with strong flush draws and some 2 pairs, and would shove sets/flushes obviously.

I really did think about raising the turn. But decided if i'd had raised it would have been somewhere in the $80-100, leaving myself with just about $90-110. Just didn't like the stack sizing on the turn incase a 4th club fell on the river.

Maybe my thinking is flawed?

TimmyOtool said:

I felt that by CR the flop I could get the dead money from the BTN who C-bets/limpers calling etc. Felt I could get flat calls from single club hands, and if I had to get it in from the flop it wouldn't have been so bad if I was beat against a flush.

Maybe my thinking is flawed?

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I understand. Generally when I have good relative position (position in relation to the PFR) I'll check to trap dead money between him and me as you suggested.

On this particular board however esp with 6 players, PFR is not going to be CBetting really ever. He'll VB Ax, which should trap in some calls from high clubs or pair/clubs or decent Aces, but I think in this spot that is outweighed by the fact that he's the last to act and can check behind leaving the pot size as is. I'd rather just lead to get some $ in the pot and get value/protection from single clubs. If a 4th club does spike, there's no guarentee we are going to get lead into, and being almost last to act we can generally check behind for a free river too

I always bet the flop here. People don't cbet light 6 handed, so you can't count on the PFR to do that. So when you're to act after 4 checks, you have to bet this and get it in if people are willing to play for stacks.

Personally, I like your idea for the flop check-raise, and on most flops I'd play it that way because you have such great relative position. However, on a one suit flop like this, BTN only ever bets if he has a decent club in his hand, which is somewhat less than 25% of the time. So betting the flop is almost certainly the higher EV play.

No question I'm raising the turn and calling whatever reraise he puts in. If he flopped it, good for him.