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*There should be a "?" at the end of the topic title since i dont know if i did anything right on these hands*. It's been quite awhile since I've played a casino game or a home game for that matter, and i don't play online anymore so my game is falling behind. But anyways, was playing a live game the other night and ran into these 2 spots against the same villain. I had no real read on villain since he has not been at the table real long. He was sitting with around $300 where i was just a little over $200.

Im Dealt AKs on the BTN:

Theres a few limps around to me so i bump it up to $10 (that was the tables standard raising size so i chose to keep it around that amount). Folds around to villain sitting just off the high jack seat who makes the call.

Flop: 9d2d6h

He checked to me. I opted to Cbet here since villain didn't really have any reads on me. I think i bet around $15. He comes over the top for around $35. I make the call.

Turn: Qs

He checks again. I bet here (sizing was around $40 or so). He makes the call.

River:10d

Villain Checks. I opt to check.

Going over the hand in my head, my thoughts on calling the flop raise was i didn't feel like he was that strong and i could take the pot on a later street. So i show aggression again on the turn. And come the river i just no longer thought he was going anywhere so i gave up. I feel like i could have checked the flop and waited for a better spot where i could actually rep a hand other then an unlikely high PP in that spot. As played i probably should have shoved the river since it would be hard for him to call without having the flush himself.

2nd hand happened several orbits later. He was little over $300 and i was sitting just under $200.

Deal: There had been a few limps around to me where i raise to $12 with QQ. Folds around to villain who makes the call.

Flop: 887 os

He checks. I bet around $20. He raises to around $45. (this feels familiar). I think for a little and shove my last $114.

If it was not for the previous hand against this guy i might have played the hand differently. But as is its hard to just flat here and go to the turn. There are not a lot of good turn cards for me. Any over card, connecting card that completes possible draws. He limp/calls pre so i figure his range to be something like suited connects, Ax suited type hands, medium pp. I feel like its also possible for him to have a hand like A7 and thinks im choosing the same Cbet line with 2 overs. Calling did not leave me much chips behind to have much fold equity on later streets either. Just Raising obviously would have left me with almost little to no fold equity and would pot commit me on almost all turn/river cards if he chose to bet. I feel like an 8 is less likely a possibility for him to have over the other hands he could have.

How would you guys play these hands? Were any of my actions correct or wrong and why.
 
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First hand I raise more pre. Several limpers, being live and having a strong hand means you can likely get away with more, how much depends on the players and just how bad the table is.

The flop I check back, you likely have the best hand. I guess something could be said for getting value from weaker overcards but I see no reads on villain and it's thin at best whilst checking back can catch both bluffs or pairs that will pay off well.
As played could do with a read on villain without a read I call a little reluctantly. We beat bluffs and have good equity vs better pairs were the board is devoid of two pairs.

Turn i check, the turn bet is very bad. If he had been bluffing we're probably ahead. We're only folding out hands we were beating anyway.

The river I check back. His line matches a flush draw or Qx pretty well if the flop raise was a bluff. If it weren't then he had something good enough to raise in the first place and call a turn bet he isn't going to be folding it.

I'll get round to the other hand tomorrow.
 
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You could have picked a better spot to put that much of your money in. The c-bet was perfect but will arise some suspicion. Check it down or fold to a bet. find better spots.
 
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Hand 1, raise more preflop, like $17 then C-bet $30 with one caller, over time you'll win a lot more than you'll lose from OOP floaters and made sets.

Hand 2, always top up if you drop $20 below max-buyin, again raise more preflop. As played I have no problem with your shove here since more than 50% of the time you'll be ahead.
 
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In hand #2, top up pre, and just call the flop.

Hand #1 is pretty standard, except that you should be bumping it up way more preflop.
 
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Hand 2 I just call in the hope he bluffs again. At live poker it's unlikely he'd bluff again and more likely he's dumb enough to do this with TT or stack overcards than it is online so it isn't a big mistake to shove in fact either is fine.

The results for hand 1 would be useful information for hand 2. Both results combined would be priceless information vs this player if both flop raises of this size were similar hand strengths.
 
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all good stuff guys, thanks. Now hopefully i learn from these plays and make the best decision next time instead of repeating my mistakes.

I'll give you the results of hand 1. Villain had 910s (as long as i remember correctly they were suited. I find it hard for him to limp call with 910os here, but anything is possible.) Villain made a comment before this hand how he was a better player then he used to be so i took him as a competent player.
 
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I find a lot of live players that will limp/call with connectors, suited or not. That's why you raise more for value preflop with big hands in live games.
 
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Small raising a weak toppair on the flop is strange. Great read for the 2nd hand though, considering hand 1s results I prefer shoving hand 2 now as villains range is no longer polarized.
 
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Yea and had i not been in the hand earlier against this villain i might have played the hand differently. But needless to say he limp called me again with connectors and actually had the 8. i wasn't happy with the way i played hand 1, but i don't think my play on hand 2 was too terrible, just unfortunate. he thought long and hard about making the call i thought for sure i was ahead haha.
 
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