Originally Posted by Four Dogs
1. Don't raise for information.
True but I assume you have no objection to using the information you get. This should really be rephrased as "Don't raise for information alone". My checkraise was for value as well as information. I truly believed I was ahead here most of the time.
2. Don't check-raise this board with any hand.
How about 72o?
3. C-R does not get you value out of worse hands.
Of course it does. Didn't I say say he seemed like the sort player who would bet just about any hand when checked to? Isn't that value?
4. Putting in more than 2 streets on this board is bad, no one has recommended this so not sure why you think it's necessary. This is a pretty standard b/f or c/c 1 street, 2 if it's cheap but basically giving up after flop or turn.
Checking the river after you bet the flop and turn is such a weak line that you have to expect him to take a stab at it. If he bets the river his range will be so polarized that a call is mandatory. Really, What kind of made hand is going to call down 2 streets and then bet the river for value? Either a monster that he slow played or backed into or air.
1. Stick to what you know, value or bluff. If you aren't raising for these reasons primarily, then you are doing it wrong. The fact that you aren't sure how to interpret the information you get proves that you should just be keeping it simple. Whether you are ahead or not is irrelevant, you could be ahead of him every single time here and raising would still be bad, it's not about what you beat, it's about what you beat that will call.
2. You should never have 72o here.
3. See point one. You are struggling to make the distinction between what he bets as a bluff with and what he calls a check/raise with. Two completely different ranges there.
4. If you feel he is bluffing
all the way here with his air hands, then call down. If you feel he will bluff two streets then call two. If you feel he is only firing one on this board, then call one.
As for your comment in reply to mine. He isn't shoving AQ here ever. If he has AQ and he puts you on KK/QQ why is he going to raise and fold out your range which is weaker than him?