$200 NLHE Full Ring: Live $1/$2, Been running bad, questioning if its me or variance

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Jarod1231

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$200 NLHE Full Ring: Live $1/$2, Been running bad, questioning if its me or variance

Basically I can't seem to win at anything lately, if I'm ahead when the money goes in, I lose... If I'm behind, I don't suck out... I'm starting to question if I'm playing poorly or its just variance... I have mostly been playing online, but I just got home from playing live $1/2 ... Sat down with $80, was dealt a total of 8 hands and this happens... after which I got up and left...

Me: Cutoff, dealt AdQd
Player#1: Big Blind
Player#2: Hijack

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all others fold,
Player #2 limps from hijack
I raise to $7
Player #1 calls from big blind
Player #2 calls from Hijack
Flop Qc8c4d
Player #1 check
Player #2 check
I bet $30
Player #1 goes all in
Player #2 folds
I call the remaining $37 in my stack

Player #1 shows KK, turn and river insignificant.

... Did I play this wrong or is this just standard?.. Should I have just folded preflop? Should I have checked the flop? Should I have bet less? Should I have folded to the checkraise? I can't tell anymore... the losses I'm taking lately are making me think its me and not variance
 
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Very standard play just a bad spot but thats at the very top of his range so you are way ahead of all draws and a worse queen so always happy to get it in here
 
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Standard spot.

How come you are buying in short at the live games?
 
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Standard spot.

How come you are buying in short at the live games?

I went there to play a tournament and busted, card dead and whittled down to 3BB from the blinds, picked up A3 in small blind, all folds to button, button limps, I shove, BB folds, Button calls and shows 77, no luck... I bought into the cash for what I had left, not at a casino so no ATMs... with how I've been running I'm glad I didn't have more, taking loss after loss when I'm ahead and no luck when behind is taking a serious toll on my confidence in whether I'm playing correct or not...
 
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Break even or down swings can last thousands of hands. Don't get discouraged. If you're playing situations close to optimally then it'll turn round eventually. The tourney shove is standard as well.

I've ran 30 BIs under EV on a couple of occasions. Variance is what keeps the fish playing.

Upswings are easy, your winrate will be mostly defined by how you handle downswings.
 
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Break even or down swings can last thousands of hands. Don't get discouraged. If you're playing situations close to optimally then it'll turn round eventually. The tourney shove is standard as well.

I've ran 30 BIs under EV on a couple of occasions. Variance is what keeps the fish playing.

Upswings are easy, your winrate will be mostly defined by how you handle downswings.

Here's a sample of what I've been dealing with non-stop, all of these JUST happened:

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Game started at: 2016/8/20 8:40:26
Game ID: 707478057 125/250 $25 GTD - On Demand, Table 19 (Hold'em)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: HELL-RAISER (6865).
Seat 2: 2helper2 (2495).
Seat 3: lilnbill (1235).
Seat 4: mimpibasa (1415).
Seat 5: LionsRule (540).
Seat 6: Jarod1231 (1345).
Seat 7: RiverRat034 (2215).
Seat 9: n1cholas (4600).
Player 2helper2 ante (25)
Player lilnbill ante (25)
Player mimpibasa ante (25)
Player LionsRule ante (25)
Player Jarod1231 ante (25)
Player RiverRat034 ante (25)
Player n1cholas ante (25)
Player HELL-RAISER ante (25)
Player 2helper2 has small blind (125)
Player lilnbill has big blind (250)
Player 2helper2 received a card.
Player 2helper2 received a card.
Player lilnbill received a card.
Player lilnbill received a card.
Player mimpibasa received a card.
Player mimpibasa received a card.
Player LionsRule received a card.
Player LionsRule received a card.
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Ad]
Player Jarod1231 received card: [10s]
Player RiverRat034 received a card.
Player RiverRat034 received a card.
Player n1cholas received a card.
Player n1cholas received a card.
Player HELL-RAISER received a card.
Player HELL-RAISER received a card.
Player mimpibasa folds
Player LionsRule folds
Player Jarod1231 allin (1320)
Player RiverRat034 folds
Player n1cholas folds
Player HELL-RAISER folds
Player 2helper2 folds
Player lilnbill allin (960)
Uncalled bet (110) returned to Jarod1231
*** FLOP ***: [Qs 7s 3c]
*** TURN ***: [Qs 7s 3c] [5d]
*** RIVER ***: [Qs 7s 3c 5d] [9d]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 2745. Rake 0
Board: [Qs 7s 3c 5d 9d]
Player HELL-RAISER does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player 2helper2 does not show cards.Bets: 150. Collects: 0. Loses: 150.
*Player lilnbill shows: One pair of 9s [Ah 9s]. Bets: 1235. Collects: 2745. Wins: 1510.
Player mimpibasa does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player LionsRule does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player Jarod1231 shows: High card A [Ad 10s]. Bets: 1235. Collects: 0. Loses: 1235.
Player RiverRat034 does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player n1cholas does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Game ended at: 2016/8/20 8:41:8

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Game started at: 2016/8/20 8:23:8
Game ID: 707472030 75/150 $25 GTD - On Demand, Table 19 (Hold'em)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: HELL-RAISER (3495).
Seat 2: 2helper2 (2250).
Seat 3: CFSC (1225).
Seat 4: BigDizzle (1515).
Seat 5: LionsRule (3845).
Seat 6: PhilOnRoids (2190).
Seat 8: gglol (1485).
Seat 9: Jarod1231 (2030).
Player gglol ante (15)
Player Jarod1231 ante (15)
Player HELL-RAISER ante (15)
Player 2helper2 ante (15)
Player CFSC ante (15)
Player BigDizzle ante (15)
Player LionsRule ante (15)
Player PhilOnRoids ante (15)
Player gglol has small blind (75)
Player Jarod1231 has big blind (150)
Player gglol received a card.
Player gglol received a card.
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Kh]
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Kd]
Player HELL-RAISER received a card.
Player HELL-RAISER received a card.
Player 2helper2 received a card.
Player 2helper2 received a card.
Player CFSC received a card.
Player CFSC received a card.
Player BigDizzle received a card.
Player BigDizzle received a card.
Player LionsRule received a card.
Player LionsRule received a card.
Player PhilOnRoids received a card.
Player PhilOnRoids received a card.
Player HELL-RAISER folds
Player 2helper2 folds
Player CFSC folds
Player BigDizzle folds
Player LionsRule folds
Player PhilOnRoids raises (600)
Player gglol folds
Player Jarod1231 allin (1865)
Player PhilOnRoids calls (1415)
*** FLOP ***: [8s 6s 3d]
*** TURN ***: [8s 6s 3d] [3c]
*** RIVER ***: [8s 6s 3d 3c] [8h]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 4225. Rake 0
Board: [8s 6s 3d 3c 8h]
Player HELL-RAISER does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player 2helper2 does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player CFSC does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player BigDizzle does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player LionsRule does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
*Player PhilOnRoids shows: Full House (8/3) [Qd 8d]. Bets: 2030. Collects: 4225. Wins: 2195.
Player gglol does not show cards.Bets: 90. Collects: 0. Loses: 90.
Player Jarod1231 shows: Two pairs. Ks and 8s [Kh Kd]. Bets: 2030. Collects: 0. Loses: 2030.
Game ended at: 2016/8/20 8:23:42

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Game started at: 2016/8/20 8:2:35
Game ID: 707465198 75/150 $1 Freezeout KO 6-Max, Table 3 (Hold'em)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: dafishingmac (5917).
Seat 2: Arek_L94 (10578).
Seat 3: Jarod1231 (4152).
Seat 4: Jeff3232 (2062).
Seat 5: felipeliraa (18890).
Seat 6: BigDave912 (3271).
Player Jarod1231 ante (15)
Player Jeff3232 ante (15)
Player felipeliraa ante (15)
Player BigDave912 ante (15)
Player dafishingmac ante (15)
Player Arek_L94 ante (15)
Player Jarod1231 has small blind (75)
Player Jeff3232 has big blind (150)
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Qd]
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Ad]
Player Jeff3232 received a card.
Player Jeff3232 received a card.
Player felipeliraa received a card.
Player felipeliraa received a card.
Player BigDave912 received a card.
Player BigDave912 received a card.
Player dafishingmac received a card.
Player dafishingmac received a card.
Player Arek_L94 received a card.
Player Arek_L94 received a card.
Player felipeliraa folds
Player BigDave912 raises (450)
Player dafishingmac folds
Player Arek_L94 folds
Player Jarod1231 calls (375)
Player Jeff3232 calls (300)
*** FLOP ***: [Ks Jd 10h]
Player Jarod1231 checks
Player Jeff3232 checks
Player BigDave912 bets (960)
Player Jarod1231 calls (960)
Player Jeff3232 folds
*** TURN ***: [Ks Jd 10h] [10c]
Player Jarod1231 checks
Player BigDave912 allin (1846)
Player Jarod1231 calls (1846)
*** RIVER ***: [Ks Jd 10h 10c] [5s]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 7052. Rake 0
Board: [Ks Jd 10h 10c 5s]
Player dafishingmac does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player Arek_L94 does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player Jarod1231 shows: Straight to A [Qd Ad]. Bets: 3271. Collects: 0. Loses: 3271.
Player Jeff3232 does not show cards.Bets: 465. Collects: 0. Loses: 465.
Player felipeliraa does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
*Player BigDave912 shows: Full House (K/10) [Kd Kh]. Bets: 3271. Collects: 7052. Wins: 3781.
Game ended at: 2016/8/20 8:3:33

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Game started at: 2016/8/20 8:4:52
Game ID: 707465906 75/150 $1 Freezeout KO 6-Max, Table 3 (Hold'em)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: dafishingmac (5872).
Seat 2: Arek_L94 (8951).
Seat 3: Jarod1231 (851).
Seat 4: Jeff3232 (3854).
Seat 5: felipeliraa (18620).
Seat 6: BigDave912 (6722).
Player BigDave912 ante (15)
Player dafishingmac ante (15)
Player Arek_L94 ante (15)
Player Jarod1231 ante (15)
Player Jeff3232 ante (15)
Player felipeliraa ante (15)
Player BigDave912 has small blind (75)
Player dafishingmac has big blind (150)
Player BigDave912 received a card.
Player BigDave912 received a card.
Player dafishingmac received a card.
Player dafishingmac received a card.
Player Arek_L94 received a card.
Player Arek_L94 received a card.
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Ad]
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Qs]
Player Jeff3232 received a card.
Player Jeff3232 received a card.
Player felipeliraa received a card.
Player felipeliraa received a card.
Player Arek_L94 raises (300)
Player Jarod1231 allin (836)
Player Jeff3232 folds
Player felipeliraa folds
Player BigDave912 folds
Player dafishingmac folds
Player Arek_L94 calls (536)
*** FLOP ***: [2d 3c Js]
*** TURN ***: [2d 3c Js] [5h]
*** RIVER ***: [2d 3c Js 5h] [6s]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 1987. Rake 0
Board: [2d 3c Js 5h 6s]
Player dafishingmac does not show cards.Bets: 165. Collects: 0. Loses: 165.
*Player Arek_L94 shows: One pair of 10s [10h 10s]. Bets: 851. Collects: 1987. Wins: 1136.
Player Jarod1231 shows: High card A [Ad Qs]. Bets: 851. Collects: 0. Loses: 851.
Player Jeff3232 does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player felipeliraa does not show cards.Bets: 15. Collects: 0. Loses: 15.
Player BigDave912 does not show cards.Bets: 90. Collects: 0. Loses: 90.
Game ended at: 2016/8/20 8:5:15
 
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...and some more:

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Game started at: 2016/8/20 10:30:54
Game ID: 707519089 150/300 $300 GTD R/A, Table 3 (Hold'em)
Seat 6 is the button
Seat 1: Metrospent (4140).
Seat 2: JohnLeeHooker (3970).
Seat 3: tolboof (6615).
Seat 4: flipinjimmy (1760).
Seat 5: The Great Timachow (4225).
Seat 6: fulldea (18455).
Seat 7: AxeKiller (2740).
Seat 8: Cletious2 (23485).
Seat 9: Jarod1231 (7605).
Player AxeKiller ante (30)
Player Cletious2 ante (30)
Player Jarod1231 ante (30)
Player Metrospent ante (30)
Player JohnLeeHooker ante (30)
Player tolboof ante (30)
Player flipinjimmy ante (30)
Player The Great Timachow ante (30)
Player fulldea ante (30)
Player AxeKiller has small blind (150)
Player Cletious2 has big blind (300)
Player AxeKiller received a card.
Player AxeKiller received a card.
Player Cletious2 received a card.
Player Cletious2 received a card.
Player Jarod1231 received card: [6h]
Player Jarod1231 received card: [6c]
Player Metrospent received a card.
Player Metrospent received a card.
Player JohnLeeHooker received a card.
Player JohnLeeHooker received a card.
Player tolboof received a card.
Player tolboof received a card.
Player flipinjimmy received a card.
Player flipinjimmy received a card.
Player The Great Timachow received a card.
Player The Great Timachow received a card.
Player fulldea received a card.
Player fulldea received a card.
Player Jarod1231 calls (300)
Player Metrospent folds
Player JohnLeeHooker allin (3940)
Player tolboof folds
Player flipinjimmy folds
Player The Great Timachow folds
Player fulldea folds
Player AxeKiller folds
Player Cletious2 folds
Player Jarod1231 calls (3640)
*** FLOP ***: [4s 2c 3s]
*** TURN ***: [4s 2c 3s] [Kc]
*** RIVER ***: [4s 2c 3s Kc] [As]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 8600. Rake 0
Board: [4s 2c 3s Kc As]
Player Metrospent does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
*Player JohnLeeHooker shows: Straight to 5 [Ac 5s]. Bets: 3970. Collects: 8600. Wins: 4630.
Player tolboof does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
Player flipinjimmy does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
Player The Great Timachow does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
Player fulldea does not show cards.Bets: 30. Collects: 0. Loses: 30.
Player AxeKiller does not show cards.Bets: 180. Collects: 0. Loses: 180.
Player Cletious2 does not show cards.Bets: 330. Collects: 0. Loses: 330.
Player Jarod1231 shows: One pair of 6s [6h 6c]. Bets: 3970. Collects: 0. Loses: 3970.
Game ended at: 2016/8/20 10:31:41

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Game started at: 2016/8/20 10:15:1
Game ID: 707508964 100/200 $300 GTD R/A, Table 3 (Hold'em)
Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: Metrospent (5270).
Seat 2: JohnLeeHooker (3440).
Seat 3: tolboof (3010).
Seat 4: flipinjimmy (4440).
Seat 5: The Great Timachow (5365).
Seat 6: fulldea (9955).
Seat 7: erick7413 (1620).
Seat 8: Cletious2 (22565).
Seat 9: Jarod1231 (2230).
Player Cletious2 ante (20)
Player Jarod1231 ante (20)
Player Metrospent ante (20)
Player JohnLeeHooker ante (20)
Player tolboof ante (20)
Player flipinjimmy ante (20)
Player The Great Timachow ante (20)
Player fulldea ante (20)
Player erick7413 ante (20)
Player Cletious2 has small blind (100)
Player Jarod1231 has big blind (200)
Player Cletious2 received a card.
Player Cletious2 received a card.
Player Jarod1231 received card: [9d]
Player Jarod1231 received card: [9s]
Player Metrospent received a card.
Player Metrospent received a card.
Player JohnLeeHooker received a card.
Player JohnLeeHooker received a card.
Player tolboof received a card.
Player tolboof received a card.
Player flipinjimmy received a card.
Player flipinjimmy received a card.
Player The Great Timachow received a card.
Player The Great Timachow received a card.
Player fulldea received a card.
Player fulldea received a card.
Player erick7413 received a card.
Player erick7413 received a card.
Player Metrospent folds
Player JohnLeeHooker folds
Player tolboof folds
Player flipinjimmy is timed out.
Player flipinjimmy folds
Player The Great Timachow calls (200)
Player fulldea calls (200)
Player erick7413 folds
Player Cletious2 calls (100)
Player Jarod1231 allin (2010)
Player The Great Timachow allin (5145)
Player fulldea folds
Player Cletious2 folds
Uncalled bet (3135) returned to The Great Timachow
*** FLOP ***: [Ac Qs 3d]
*** TURN ***: [Ac Qs 3d] [Ks]
*** RIVER ***: [Ac Qs 3d Ks] [2h]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 5000. Rake 0
Board: [Ac Qs 3d Ks 2h]
Player Metrospent does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player JohnLeeHooker does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player tolboof does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player flipinjimmy does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
*Player The Great Timachow shows: One pair of As [Ah Jd]. Bets: 2230. Collects: 5000. Wins: 2770.
Player fulldea does not show cards.Bets: 220. Collects: 0. Loses: 220.
Player erick7413 does not show cards.Bets: 20. Collects: 0. Loses: 20.
Player Cletious2 does not show cards.Bets: 220. Collects: 0. Loses: 220.
Player Jarod1231 shows: One pair of 9s [9d 9s]. Bets: 2230. Collects: 0. Loses: 2230.
Game ended at: 2016/8/20 10:16:9

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Game started at: 2016/8/20 10:20:10
Game ID: 707511601 125/250 $300 GTD R/A, Table 3 (Hold'em)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Metrospent (4805).
Seat 2: JohnLeeHooker (3525).
Seat 3: tolboof (2370).
Seat 4: flipinjimmy (4900).
Seat 5: The Great Timachow (7765).
Seat 6: fulldea (9365).
Seat 7: erick7413 (2660).
Seat 8: Cletious2 (23325).
Seat 9: Jarod1231 (1180).
Player The Great Timachow ante (25)
Player fulldea ante (25)
Player erick7413 ante (25)
Player Cletious2 ante (25)
Player Jarod1231 ante (25)
Player Metrospent ante (25)
Player JohnLeeHooker ante (25)
Player tolboof ante (25)
Player flipinjimmy ante (25)
Player The Great Timachow has small blind (125)
Player fulldea has big blind (250)
Player The Great Timachow received a card.
Player The Great Timachow received a card.
Player fulldea received a card.
Player fulldea received a card.
Player erick7413 received a card.
Player erick7413 received a card.
Player Cletious2 received a card.
Player Cletious2 received a card.
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Kd]
Player Jarod1231 received card: [Ac]
Player Metrospent received a card.
Player Metrospent received a card.
Player JohnLeeHooker received a card.
Player JohnLeeHooker received a card.
Player tolboof received a card.
Player tolboof received a card.
Player flipinjimmy received a card.
Player flipinjimmy received a card.
Player erick7413 folds
Player Cletious2 folds
Player Jarod1231 allin (1155)
Player Metrospent folds
Player JohnLeeHooker folds
Player tolboof folds
Player flipinjimmy folds
Player The Great Timachow folds
Player fulldea calls (905)
*** FLOP ***: [8h Jd 5d]
*** TURN ***: [8h Jd 5d] [2s]
*** RIVER ***: [8h Jd 5d 2s] [2c]
------ Summary ------
Pot: 2660. Rake 0
Board: [8h Jd 5d 2s 2c]
Player Metrospent does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player JohnLeeHooker does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player tolboof does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player flipinjimmy does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player The Great Timachow does not show cards.Bets: 150. Collects: 0. Loses: 150.
*Player fulldea shows: Two pairs. 5s and 2s [5s Qh]. Bets: 1180. Collects: 2660. Wins: 1480.
Player erick7413 does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player Cletious2 does not show cards.Bets: 25. Collects: 0. Loses: 25.
Player Jarod1231 shows: One pair of 2s [Kd Ac]. Bets: 1180. Collects: 0. Loses: 1180.
Game ended at: 2016/8/20 10:20:40
 
TimovieMan

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Unlucky, but I'm not seeing much out of the ordinary here.
We all get beats. Learn to embrace the variance!
 
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Use a hand converter. I cba to read any of those in that format.

I know, I'm lazy.
 
Aces2w1n

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the only issue i have is the preflop raise could be a little larger... last table i played live $16 pre was the sweet spot and id have 1 or 2 callers

as much as $12 the whole table was calling pretty much... remember you want you raise larger at live tables
 
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