$200 NLHE Full Ring: Full House vs Higher Full House

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Playing $1/$2 against fairly nitty opponents.

Hero (BB) has $930
Villain (UTG+2) has $1200
Hero is dealt 5d 5h

SB posts $1
Hero posts $2
2 folds
Villain raises to $6
5 folds
Hero calls $6

$13 in pot
Flop shows 5c Qc As

Hero bets $10
Villain calls $10

$33 in pot
Turn shows Ad

Hero checks
Villain bets $20
Hero raises to $60
Villain raises to $180
Hero raises to $400
Villain is ALL-IN
Hero calls ALL-IN for $900 total

River is 8h

Villain shows Ah Qd
Villain wins pot $1800

So basically, I lost a full house to a higher full house.

Did I play this hand badly? What could I have done instead?
 
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Any stats on villain? I cant see a fold here,in this spot.Villain can easly have here AK,AJ,AT , AcXc...
 
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I would've lost my money as well... You can't fold this
 
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I probably won't fold here either. However when a nitty opponent re raises me after I check raise on the turn, I'll just check call turn and river instead of going over the top.

This way I can trap him if he just have trips since it's likely he has trips or better here. If he does have better, then I'll have the option to minimise my losses because I don't think I can fold here. Set's are hidden and there are a lot more combos that we beat.
 
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Its a cooler,nothing you can do to avoid the situation.
 
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I don't really like your min bet here. I understand you are target AK, but when your opponent shows that much aggression in that spot his hand is looking pretty nuttish. AK is now the bottom of your villain's value range, and hands like AQ, QQ, and the one combo of AA make up almost as many combos as AK. Actually, slightly more. 8 AK, vs. 6 AQ + 3 QQ + 1 AA.

I really can't see any bluffs in your opponent's range here. That would be pretty darn tricky to get through.

So even though you do have a full house, as much as it sucks, I think once villain puts in that 4-bet you're better off playing pot control. Call the 4-bet, check call the river, show down, and hope you're against AK. Cause if you're not you're very very likely beat.

The only way this spot favors you is if you think your villain takes Ace hands out of your range with a hand like KK.
 
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Not in love with checking the turn against people we think are nits with low bluff frequencies and absolutely hate the 4 bet on the turn. Folds out almost every hand we beat and we are almost never ahead of the 5 bet shove range. Likely flatting the 3 bet and x/c River
 
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Turn was poorly played. Bet the turn instead of the c/r no need for ffs here.

Villian's 3b over your c/r with over 450BB in play means he probably wants your stack.

Not in love with checking the turn against people we think are nits with low bluff frequencies and absolutely hate the 4 bet on the turn. Folds out almost every hand we beat and we are almost never ahead of the 5 bet shove range. Likely flatting the 3 bet and x/c River


The issue with flatting here is that hero has $730ish left and the pot is over $400, leaving us with a 1.75 spr.
 
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Live, against nitty opponents, I think I can typically get away from this kind of hand. I haven't played 1/2 in a while live though, but I'd expect it to be that much easier. Too many tells.

I really don't like the turn 4-bet. I guess you're hoping AK stacks off here? I mean I don't think a nit is stacking off with AJ, so you're only ahead of one narrow hand range, and behind everything else. If I'm CRing the turn and get re-popped by a nit there I'm either calling or folding.
 
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why not bet/call the turn?

but as played i'd broke here as well.
 
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While this is a pretty big cooler but it's not exactly a situation where I'll happily stack off almost 500BB against a tight player.

I like the flop way more than the turn, if I had 2 bet the flop and got 3 bet I would be stacking off every single time.

2 betting the turn is fine but as soon as I am 3 bet I would go into panic mode. Since this is live poker I might act like I don't really have a hand, pretend to contemplate a fold and then reluctantly call. What this does is possibly make our opponent make a smaller river bet hoping that we don't fold.

The pot is 400 on the river and we still have over 700 left. Even if he bets the pot it is still a good thing to save 150BB instead of just losing it all.

The beauty of live poker allows us to really think long and hard when put in situations like this. Online I might have ended up playing it the same way as you did due to less time, less concentration on one table and the whole bet bet bet mode. But I am almost never making this play in live poker.

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