$200 NLHE Full Ring: Folding TPTK against Reg

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Raibik13

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Live in local casino - The blinds are $2 - $3 not $1 - $2. Since i dont have the option for that....

UTG+2: $800 Limps
MP +1 (Villain): $300 - Limps
CO: $500 Limps
Hero (BTN): $400 Raise to $15
UTG+2: $800 - Calls
MP +1 (Villain): $300 - Calls
CO: $500 - Calls

Pre Flop: (pot: $75 ) Hero has AhJh


Flop: (5 players) 4c 7h Jd
They all check - Hero bets to $30 , UTG +2 folds, MP +1 folds, CO raise to $100

I fold showing the Jh.

My thought process - Villain is a tight reg and he does not really got out of line post flop. I asked him, what did you have? He said you are behind and good fold. I said why did you raise on a rainbow board. He said hes been running so bad lately that he just wants to take pot down, people have done runner runner flush on him.

We were having conversation about his sick bad beats, hes in his 40s chinese man, have seen him around a lot in the casino but i would not say he is a really great player. Just TAG. So it lead me to believe he out have a set there because there was not actual draws on the flop or if he was doing to see where he is at on the flop.

Would a reg ever check raise a rainbow board? With a J being the highest card? Usually i thought it was with Ace high flop.

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Bad regs are bad. Also don't show folds. It's going to make you level yourself against this guy later. Good fold. Also bet 35-40 on flop. 30 is missing out on a little value from jx
 
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It's quite a reasonable fold. You are ahead not too often and later streets are going to make it tough for you to navigate to showdown if you ever are ahead
 
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All in all, i think its a good fold and i am not showing my hands again to others. Thanks for the tip.
 
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Yep, bad regs are bad. They will CR rainbow boards with nutted hands. LOL at him being afraid of runner runner flush. Bad regs will be bad. Some good regs will CR rainbow boards with bluffs like A high/some backdoor/gutshot hands and their nutted hands. It's cool hitting the A as a 3-outer, as your opponent's continuing range does not have a lot of A. You also usually get paid off if turn goes check check.

The hand was played well. Good c-bet and good fold. He's almost never making a move 5-way and that deep.
 
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Bad regs are bad. Also don't show folds. It's going to make you level yourself against this guy later. Good fold. Also bet 35-40 on flop. 30 is missing out on a little value from jx

I usually bet more than half but it was second time it was jack high rainbow board and most of my opponents range would be so little to continue.
 
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Looking at the combos, i think i should have call the flop and if a 10,Q, or K is on turn, i should fold.

Somehow i dont understand why check raise...unless he is just stupid enough to do that....i would have checked the turn and call the river anyways...
 

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idk about folding.. sets are hard to make and you have a backdoor flush draw and position.. that's pretty much all i can add to this hand, not sure what I'd do.

what program are you using there Rabik?
 
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idk about folding.. sets are hard to make and you have a backdoor flush draw and position.. that's pretty much all i can add to this hand, not sure what I'd do.

what program are you using there Rabik?

Its called flopzilla...if you play online this is really good but gives you insight of the flop percentages...cost like 40 something
 
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As far as live poker is concerned, we should expect to be behind in this scenario.

However, we should be opening bigger. If you have been at this game a while, you should know what size raise will get the pot HU or 3w. 4 callers is not ideal.

Raise bigger preflop.

As played, bet flop $40 or $45. $30 looks weak, and may cause villains to spaz out, and then raise with worse, just because they think you bet weak. Then you level yourself. I don't think this is the case here though. I think this is a good fold.

We aren't only calling the raise OTF, but we also have to think ahead to future streets. How much heat can we take with TPTK?
 
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I had a hand like this last night live. I have AQo first to act, flop is something like 6-9-A. I'm first to act and bet pot (smallish $15 pot). Other guy insta raises to $45. I didn't have much info on him but he was an ok reg. I put him on AK or a set. I was afraid if I flat called then like Trabendo says it's tough decisions on turn and river. Def possible he had AQ or AJ but another live session I had a guy maniac into my AK with his AQ, I called him all in on a no flush/no s8 board, he looked surprised he lost so if I had more info on this other guy I might have called him down but in the situation i did not and expected to see set, 2p, AA or AK.

I also had AA in a spot where someone 5xed 3bet me on a low non drawing board. Insta fold for me.

I think you made the correct play given what you knew. Why else is villian more than 3xing your bet? a set, 2p, overpair? But as others said don't show your J here. Now villian knows he can get you off decent flopped pairs with some aggression.
 
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