This is a discussion on $200 NLHE Full Ring: Do I call this flop pot shove? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; Hey All,
I am dealt Kings on the button
Limps around, I raise it to 24
Only Cutoff calls
So pot is about 80
New player at the table, early
This sucks. Not sure what the flop was before Hero's raise to $24. If there was ~$80 after one caller this implies there was $34 in the pot when hero raised (80-24-22) . If so the preflop raise was light. What were the blinds? Doesn't seem possible to have that many limpers.
I am going to assume the OOP caller has a 15% calling hand heavy on suited aces, connectors, pairs and broadways. Against that range Hero is 75% favorite pre and a 55% favorite on the flop.
There is another problem in the description. Villain can't have a $60 stack and then shove for $145. It doesn't make much difference. There is $265 in the pot (80+40+145) and Hero has to call $125 to win $265. What combos does Villain shove with out of the range we gave her?
Obviously all of her aces. I gave her AA, AJ+, A5s+ so 3+36+18=57, all ahead. She may also shoves any queen, KQ, QQ, QJs, so 12+3+3=18, but only 15 are behind, QQ made trips. So 60 losers to 15 losers. Add in the non-ace flush draws KJ, JT, T9, 98, 87 and a few bluffs and Hero has a problem. A tight player doesn't shove the queens and is ahead, but a loose bluffy player gives the odds to call. Given Villain is an unknown who over limped and called a raise OOP, I have to call.
February 23rd, 2019, 1:49 AM
Join Date: May 2017
Id fold here. You are blocking a straight draw. Most likely villain is shoving for value
Also you don't have to bet here. You can easily check behind with position on the cutoff
February 23rd, 2019, 2:40 AM
Join Date: Feb 2008
Game: NL Holdem
re: Poker & $200 NLHE Full Ring: Do I call this flop pot shove?
Originally Posted by TheBigFinn
Given Villain is an unknown who over limped and called a raise OOP, I have to call.
+1 Calling this all day against this villain type.
February 23rd, 2019, 4:10 AM
Join Date: Feb 2019
Game: Nl hold'em
Yeah this sucks..i think you are beat alot, but a fold seems too weak, particularly in a live game. If we can run it multiple times thats better at least. I'm calling against 17/20 opponents...try to get a read...TT/JJ are always possibile against a reg, and if they are fishiy it could be mych worse...but yeah as described it screams AXs to me...for taht amount and given its capped i just call.
Also - when i call here I flip them up...this will pay dividends in your image regardless