thepokerkid123
Visionary
Silver Level
$200 NL HE Full Ring: Calling with 6's and rivering the nuts
There's a hand that a buddy of mine has been disagreeing with me on for a while now, this wouldn't bother me except he's actually a decent player and I really don't think I did anything in this hand that I wouldn't do again.
I've got As6s in the CO, I'm at 100bb, villain has 400bb two seats to my right.
Here's how it went down:
Folded to villain who raises to 4bb. It's call or raise, but I choose to call because his range is mostly big cards and pocket pairs and even though I expect to see a lot of SCs show up as well I still don't want to get 4bet which I expect to happen most of the time. I call. BB calls. BB's range here is very wide but he's been leaking chips badly (loose calls/bets mostly) so having him in the hand isn't all bad.
Pot: 12bb.
Flop: Ks6c3d
BB checks, villain bets 7bb. Here I think it's an easy call, BB most likely missed, Villain is c-betting a lot of air (he'll be thinking BB is no threat and he doesn't know how wide my range is so he's thinking I can only hit the K and he'd take that risk). Basically any made hand I'm behind but I have 3 aces, 2 sixes and a backdoor flushdraw for that and my 6 is good for bluff catching value. Some people would raise here to find out if they're up against air or a made hand (would also fold out a lot of better made hands) but I chose to call because there are a ton of turn cards that give me a hand that will get paid by the top of his range, as opposed to just raising and beating the bottom of his range for a small pot. So I call and BB calls behind, as far as I'm concerned just giving value.
Pot: 33bb
Turn: Qs
BB checks, villain bets 18bb. Now I'm thinking his range is a lot stronger, at least the K but I now have a flush draw with an ace overcard that is live much more often than not, also any six gives me trips. That's what, 14 outs or 28%ish, I'm getting odds on the call but would it be better to semi-bluff? I just don't see him folding a K, I mean, all he's scared of is a bigger kicker or a set and will he fold something like KJ? I don't want to bluff into it. I call. BB folds, no idea what he had, thanks for the chips though.
Pot: 69bb.
River: Ts
Villain checks, I shove for roughly 71bb. Villain calls and turns over KQ for top two. Later he says he made a mistake calling on the river because it completed the flush and straight, but honestly I don't think he can put me on a backdoor draw and fold to it unless I'm betting 150% of the pot or more.
So anyway, I played this one passively, I didn't actually bet until the river.
I shoved the river, mostly because I think bets of pot size or smaller are hard to fold a good hand to on the river and be correct in doing so. At least, that's my rationale against this player but I'll make the same raise against a fish because they seem to look at it as "he's either bluffing or he's not" and I haven't noticed a great change in the amount of calls based on raise size until we get over 120% of the pot size, or thereabouts.
Also, on the flop I had 5 outs plus the backdoor flush, this alone is enough for me to be comfortable calling a c-bet but the pair of sixes just made it even better. Do you think this is the right way of looking at it, or am I calling too light?
Hand well played or I'm an idiot?
There's a hand that a buddy of mine has been disagreeing with me on for a while now, this wouldn't bother me except he's actually a decent player and I really don't think I did anything in this hand that I wouldn't do again.
I've got As6s in the CO, I'm at 100bb, villain has 400bb two seats to my right.
Here's how it went down:
Folded to villain who raises to 4bb. It's call or raise, but I choose to call because his range is mostly big cards and pocket pairs and even though I expect to see a lot of SCs show up as well I still don't want to get 4bet which I expect to happen most of the time. I call. BB calls. BB's range here is very wide but he's been leaking chips badly (loose calls/bets mostly) so having him in the hand isn't all bad.
Pot: 12bb.
Flop: Ks6c3d
BB checks, villain bets 7bb. Here I think it's an easy call, BB most likely missed, Villain is c-betting a lot of air (he'll be thinking BB is no threat and he doesn't know how wide my range is so he's thinking I can only hit the K and he'd take that risk). Basically any made hand I'm behind but I have 3 aces, 2 sixes and a backdoor flushdraw for that and my 6 is good for bluff catching value. Some people would raise here to find out if they're up against air or a made hand (would also fold out a lot of better made hands) but I chose to call because there are a ton of turn cards that give me a hand that will get paid by the top of his range, as opposed to just raising and beating the bottom of his range for a small pot. So I call and BB calls behind, as far as I'm concerned just giving value.
Pot: 33bb
Turn: Qs
BB checks, villain bets 18bb. Now I'm thinking his range is a lot stronger, at least the K but I now have a flush draw with an ace overcard that is live much more often than not, also any six gives me trips. That's what, 14 outs or 28%ish, I'm getting odds on the call but would it be better to semi-bluff? I just don't see him folding a K, I mean, all he's scared of is a bigger kicker or a set and will he fold something like KJ? I don't want to bluff into it. I call. BB folds, no idea what he had, thanks for the chips though.
Pot: 69bb.
River: Ts
Villain checks, I shove for roughly 71bb. Villain calls and turns over KQ for top two. Later he says he made a mistake calling on the river because it completed the flush and straight, but honestly I don't think he can put me on a backdoor draw and fold to it unless I'm betting 150% of the pot or more.
So anyway, I played this one passively, I didn't actually bet until the river.
I shoved the river, mostly because I think bets of pot size or smaller are hard to fold a good hand to on the river and be correct in doing so. At least, that's my rationale against this player but I'll make the same raise against a fish because they seem to look at it as "he's either bluffing or he's not" and I haven't noticed a great change in the amount of calls based on raise size until we get over 120% of the pot size, or thereabouts.
Also, on the flop I had 5 outs plus the backdoor flush, this alone is enough for me to be comfortable calling a c-bet but the pair of sixes just made it even better. Do you think this is the right way of looking at it, or am I calling too light?
Hand well played or I'm an idiot?