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I was playing a few weeks ago at a local casino but this hand still pops into my head. I thought I'd reach out to you guys to see what you thought.

9-handed, AdKh dealt to hero in the BB

The only players in this hand will be UTG ($220), SB ($137 ish), and hero in BB ($290 ish).

I had recently sat down on this table but UTG is an old jail bailiff reg who is a clear gambler and had limped a couple hands with a wide range from any position (think K7o, Q3s). SB is a middle - aged guy who had not played any hands in the 20 or so that I had been at the table. It is a small sample, but that is what I had for the moment.

UTG calls $2
Folds to SB who raises to $17
Hero thinks a while before 3betting to $55
UTG calls $55
SB shoves for $65 more
Hero thinks for a while and calls $65
UTG calls $65.

Flop (pot $360, HU, 1 player all-in)
4c2c7d

Hero checks
UTG shoves for $90.
Hero sighs and calls.



My justifications were largely based off of tight ranges for SB and super wide ranges for UTG, including one-pair hands, flush draws, and giving small possibilities to sets. The pre-flop call of SB's shove was made considering that we probably had 2 over-cards to SB and the pot odds were there. I figured he had 1010+, but that might even be too tight a range (although he later revealed himself to be super tight so I think that is correct). On the flop I figured that spiking an Ace or King would be enough to take both pots and in that case the odds were there again.

I'm considering that I should have shoved over SB's shove to isolate him and initiate a probable coin-flip, but given the fish to my left I think a call was fine because I had a lot of equity vs. UTG's wide range and would be able to call any further bets on the flop (barring something super coordinated).

Alternatively, I could have called SB's raise pre-flop and went from there, but for me there aren't too many situations where I am not 3-betting AKo in position (are there some situations that I shouldn't?)

It was just a wacky situation, thoughts?
 
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Interesting. To start I was of the opinion that you would want to shove over the SB but after I stove'd it, it appears that allowing the UTG in really effects the SB more than it does you. So now I'd say yeah the flat to get the extra $65 into the pot is OK. But if UTG is that loose why not just shove, if he's the gambler that you say he is, he won't be able to pass up the call.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.119% 31.76% 00.36% 11786976348 131994393.00 { AdKh }
Hand 1: 52.535% 52.29% 00.25% 19403589157 91655498.50 { TT+ }
Hand 2: 15.346% 15.00% 00.35% 5565212086 129624805.50 { random }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.997% 36.71% 00.29% 15085877 118197.00 { AdKh }
Hand 1: 63.003% 62.72% 00.29% 25773025 118197.00 { TT+ }
 
Trabendo_daze

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Yeah it was definitely a thought to shove over the SB. I've had issues playing AK recently and I've discovered that its value really comes from GII preflop because you won't see the A or K on the flop often enough to make it profitable. In any case, it pretty much turned out the same. I'll reveal the UTG's hand later on. The SB never showed, but I'm almost certain he had JJ QQ KK (given his tight play later).
 
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