$200 NLHE Full Ring: AK deep stacked live game

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Reads are somewhat limited because this was an hour into a session against all unknowns

Villain 1 Straddles UTG. Fishy player, just all around too loose and hero has caught him bluffing in the hour hero has been at the table. $100 stack

Villain 2 seems like he plays often and is on first name basis with dealers. Loose player though and has played probably 60% of hands in my hour at the table. $800 stack.

Hero has had a few decent hands so I probably look slightly looser then I am. Also made two hero calls that were good. Unsure if villains are paying too much attention though. $500 stack

2 limpers to hero who is on the button and looks down at AKo and raises to $20. Villain 2 calls from the SB and BB(seemed like solid reg $500) calls $20 and Villain 1 ships $100 from the straddle.

Hero flats. I don't really like 4 betting AK live. Especially with stacks this deep. With that said raising is probably correct but flatting can't be bad.

Villain 2 calls from SB, BB folds. I was pretty confused about the flat and didn't really think it would happen often.

Flop($328) Ad Js 7c

SB checks, hero checks back. I think pot controlling here is pretty standard but I also don't think I can ever fold post considering the SPR.

Turn($328) Kd

SB checks, hero bets $135, SB calls.

SB checks in the dark

River($598) 5s

($265 behind) Hero ???
 
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Preflop: I probably make it 200, hoping to get rid of the SB and BB.
I agree that flatting can't be bad.

I like the flop and turn.

Top two-pair, should be an easy shove on the river, no? It's less than a half-pot bet.
He's probably not folding any A, especially if he's got AK/AJ/A7/KJ, and I don't think we should be too scared of him having a set or QT here. There's always the possibility, but we still beat most of his range, and he's got plenty of stuff that will pay us off.

Without reads we can't know what his "checking in the dark" means, so shouldn't put too much stock in it?
 
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Preflop:

4b to $200-$225. Can't stress this part enough. We are letting one of these villains in this pot with spec BS to setmine us, and hit bingo. Iso this dude who is AI.


As played....

Flop seems like FPS. Bet flop, $125-$175. No need to give V a free card to rip the nuts on the turn.

As played, on the river:

I don't like where we are now. V checks dark, we haven't clearly defined his hand, we flatted pre, we didn't bet flop, etc. We are in no man's land here. I shove TBH. He still has inferior 2p, A-X, etc. He could be nutted, and has read you for A-K or A-J. I still feel like it's a shove on the river. I don't like the way preflop and earlier streets have blinded us to read V here.
 
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Super clear ISO IMO. We are likely ahead of everyone but AK doesn't play well 4 ways. It's nice that we're in position but I like a flat with literally only AA and KK everything else gets hard to play post 4 ways.

I like the check back on such a dry board we have the deck crushed OTF. Betting turn is good. Easy Jam River right? If he has trips good for him. We have top two. I'm all in.
 
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What range are you guys putting SB on here that calls a river jam? How wide does he flat $100 pre?
 
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Like so wide man. Once you just flat from the button, a lot of people think "pot odds!" and they call pretty wide here with little consideration for RIO. It depends on villain here, but standard live reg will flat things like 66+, suited/unsuited broadways, maybe even random SCs.

OTR we get value from tons of worse 2-pairs that should be in the range: AJ,KJ (each of which makes up a sizeable amount of combos) as well as maybe KQ if he doesn't believe us. You have less than a PSB on the end and you will be giving him a good price to call with a lot of shit. I think it's an absolute must jam.
 
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Also there should be a bunch of random Ax in their range (AT, random suited aces)

You also checked back the flop to set up this exact situation, right? We don't have an ace in Villain's eyes so we can go "thinner," quotations because this isn't thin at all. We look weaker than we are got to shove.
 
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Yeah, as soon as I finished typing out the pot size and how much I had behind I realized I should of shoved the river BUT I had already typed all this out so figured I would post it anyway, lol. This is a good lesson for me to not be lazy with math while playing live because if I kept better track of pot size and stack sizes behind I probably play this hand a little better.

I checked back on river and UTG had QQ and SB had KJ and I for sure missed out on value. I made 2 mistakes in this hand though, one not 4 betting pre and 2 not shipping river but luckily the mistakes cancel each other out and I made a lot more by flatting pre. I really didn't want to check back river but I haven't grinded live much in the last year and don't really have a roll for it so went with the less variance approach. Rusty.
 
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Curious what straddler had?
 
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Oh whoops. How do straddlers always have it. Crazy. Yeah anyways looks like the points are clear though here.
 
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