$200 NLHE Full Ring: 82 offsuit, hero on the button

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$200 NL HE Full Ring: 82 offsuit, hero on the button

Just curious, but if you are on the button 9 handed and if everyone at the table has limped to you... meaning 6 limpers in front of you.. what do you do with 82 offsuit? The table is pretty passive, and have a tendency to call down with nearly any hand. You're pretty big stacked, maybe the most chips at the table, maybe second, its close. is 7.5:1 good enough to call for odds?

What do you do?
 
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8 2 off is such a garbage hand that you arent going to beat anything unless you have a great flop. If there are seriously 6 limpers...someone is probably disguising a really strong hand that they are currently playing poorly...your raise would give them the opportunity to single you out.

I probably would always always fold here as you will easily find yourself in a bad situation.
 
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I see What your stating here as you are getting better pot odds to call than odds of Aces beating you and heads up if you ran it over and over it would be a profitable situation. however. Whats the best you can hope for really? flopping 2pair? and with 6 players atleast in the pot there a probable chance that yur 2 pair wouldnt be good. if on the other hand you had 87o or perhaps 86s then yeah i would call. but not even pot odds makes this callable(is that even a word?)
 
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calling 82off is so weak... if there are 6 other people you will be like about 95% loser of all times, thats almost wasting chips in nothing hand, even you know flop will be monster for you, but that is poker you cant know anything 100% sure. I whould fold there like about 100% of times, mybe check,call on BB,SB.
 
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I wouldn't advocate raising by any means.

The reason i was asking is because like i said, the table was passive and loose.

I ended up calling on the button with 82 and flopped 2 pair against Top pair top kicker and turned a boat (Flop was 8Q2 rainbow) and the guy berated me when I flipped over the boat on the turn when he pushed all in into my now filled hand. I agree I probably shouldn't have been in the hand, but i was hoping for a BIG hand, which I got, and was hoping to stack someone, which I also got.

I had been playing VERY aggressively all night and had shown down some weak hands I was betting on. (middle pair, playing draws aggressively etc etc) and so I decided to take a chance.

In any case, i was wondering if anyone else would see a cheap flop in position (at that point every one had already limped) and hope to hit it big and stack someone... or if you miss the flop quietly fold.
 
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The result in this hand was favorable, however you simply wont flop a strong enough hand enough times to profit. Fold and save yourself the hassle.
 
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Even if you hit "hard" that will often be bottom two pair, which may cost you large pots when that isn't the best hand. To really be sure you need to trips or a boat (and 88x can lose you a lot of $ as well, although 22x is generally safer), but a lot of the times that u smack these flops super hard you wont get paid anyway. Its just not worth it and limping is long run -EV.

As far as your opponent, laugh at him for stacking off with TPTK
 
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