$200 NLHE Full Ring: 4 hands I played. Any feedback? Am I getting better?

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1/2NL (200NL)
Live cash.
Most players are short stacked at 50bb.

There is lots of missing info, but does it seem like I'm generally playing correctly? Are there any massive errors, even based on limited info?

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= Hand 1 =
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Hero gets TT
Preflop raise of $15
6 callers (!)


Flop= K K X
(Pot = $90)
V bets $15.
Tiny bet seems weak.
Hero raises to $30.
V calls

Turn = X
(Pot = $120)
V checks. (More weakness)
Hero bets $60
V folds.



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= Hand 2 =
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Stacks are small.
Hero gets suited junk but is able to limp for $2.
Flops a flush draw.
(Pot = $30)

V bets $20
Hero folds.

Good fold?


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= Hand 3 =
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Hero gets K7s
Able to limp for $2 in late position.

Flops a flush draw.

Checks all around for both flop and turn.
River comes a club.
V bets $10
Hero bets $40.
V folds.


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= Hand 4 =
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Hero gets KQ (off suit) in late position
Preflop Hero raises $10. 2 callers

Flop = A Q X
(Pot = $30)
Checks to Hero.
Hero bets $15.
1 caller.

Turn = X
(Pot = $60)
V checks.
Hero bets $25.
V folds.
 
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Wait, are you playing online poker too?

Just remember, plays from live is totally different from online.
 
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I'm only playing live cash.
Online poker is illegal for the USA.
I wish I could play online.
 
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Hand 1: I hate flop action. Not only does raising seem like suicide in a 7-way pot, but sizing is really bad.

Hand 2: Fold pre unless in the BB.

Hand 3: Fold pre.

Hand 4: Check flop.

When posting hands, include more/all info. It's tough to give feedback without knowing things like actual hole cards, specific board cards, stack sizes, and positions.
 
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Standard or general play for me:

Note: Poker is a situational game.

1. Good play except your bet/raise sizes. Have to know those standard bet/raise amounts.

2. Fold for me since you said stacks are small.

3. I think you got your flush on the river. Anyway, do you know about semi-bluff strategy?

4. Nice play but again have a question on your bet sizes.
 
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I'm not gonna go into the hands as theres not enough info and I don't play live.

All I'm gonna say is you really need to look at bet sizing and semi bluffing. Bet your draws man...
 
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Can you tell me where my bet sizing was bad?

Bet my draws? I never do this, as I'm looking to hit and see cards cheaper. You're saying I should bet for some fold equity?
 
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= Hand 1 =
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Hero gets TT
Preflop raise of $15
6 callers (!)

The raise is just OK but if you know you're going to get callers with weaker hands then go ahead and make them pay. 4x, 5x or whatever you think they'll call. I know hands like TT and JJ are hard to play when you see overs but a raise is just a raise, not a commitment to continue on any flop. You're just trying to get as much money as you can into the pot with what rates to be the best hand. Don't worry about blowing through your stack. It happens, just reload.

6 callers huh. Believe it or not this is a good table. Raise all your strong hands, try to get in as cheaply as possible with spec hands. No bluffing or betting out of position with anything less than Top Pair. Bet every street for value only and don't stop until someone comes over the top or check raises.


Flop= K K X
(Pot = $90)
V bets $15.
Tiny bet seems weak.
Hero raises to $30.
V calls

It's a probe bet but why are you raising here? Are you betting for information? What's you're plan if he comes over the top? What's your plan for the turn? Unless you know he doesn't have a King then you're effectively turning your hand into a bluff. The only reason you'd so that is to get him off a better hand. What's the X, is it something better than a Ten? If so then your min raise ain't gonna cut it. You can probably make money at this table without bluffing but if your gonna do it then do it like you mean it. Does AK min-raise? No. But I like a flat call here better. See what he does on the turn if he barrels it then you can think about folding.

Turn = X
(Pot = $120)
V checks. (More weakness)
Hero bets $60
V folds.

Good

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= Hand 2 =
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Stacks are small.
Hero gets suited junk but is able to limp for $2.
Flops a flush draw.
(Pot = $30)

V bets $20
Hero folds.

Good fold?

The good fold would have been preflop. Punish the monkees, don't be one.

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= Hand 3 =
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Hero gets K7s
Able to limp for $2 in late position.

Flops a flush draw.

Checks all around for both flop and turn.
River comes a club.
V bets $10
Hero bets $40.
V folds.

Same as above. Go ahead and limp with AXs and true suited connectors, maybe some high 1 gappers. Kxs just sucks and I've got about a million hand histories to prove it. Don't play too many hands. This is the kind of fat that needs to be trimmed from your diet.

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= Hand 4 =
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Hero gets KQ (off suit) in late position
Preflop Hero raises $10. 2 callers

Flop = A Q X
(Pot = $30)
Checks to Hero.
Hero bets $15.
1 caller.

Turn = X
(Pot = $60)
V checks.
Hero bets $25.
V folds.

Yeah okay. This is usually a check back and out of position always but if you only ever continue with top pair or better you become very predictable very quickly, even at a $1/$2 table. the reason you usually want to check is that the OOP caller will almost always check to the raiser, even with the Ace. By checking you get to see how he reacts on the turn. While it's true that after you check he can safely represent the Ace few players do it convincingly. They will often min bet like in your KKx hand above. If he bet's the turn small then maybe you can float him and see if he's got the balls to fire another one OOP on the river. That's the power of position working for you.


Hope this was helpful, GL
 
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Hand 1: The min raise was not enough to push him off the hand. So, either call if you've got some showdown value, or 3-bet properly and raise 3x-4x the bet?

Hand 2 & 3: For $2, I am now willing to see flops with a suited junk. This has paid off for me. Plus, if I learn to bet my draws, I may have some fold equity.
I can limp 50 hands, and if ONE hits a flush, it pays off well. I like the odds.

Hand 4: Why would OOP caller check if he's got an A? Most people at my table value bet if they have TP. But, you're saying if they're bluffing with a tiny bet, they will often not follow up with a river bluff also?
 
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Hand 1: The min raise was not enough to push him off the hand. So, either call if you've got some showdown value, or 3-bet properly and raise 3x-4x the bet?

Hand 2 & 3: For $2, I am now willing to see flops with a suited junk. This has paid off for me. Plus, if I learn to bet my draws, I may have some fold equity.
I can limp 50 hands, and if ONE hits a flush, it pays off well. I like the odds.

Hand 4: Why would OOP caller check if he's got an A? Most people at my table value bet if they have TP. But, you're saying if they're bluffing with a tiny bet, they will often not follow up with a river bluff also?

Hand 1: Push him off what hand? If he's got Kx, he's not going anywhere so raising is throwing money away. If nobody has a King, you've got the best hand most likely considering there was no preflop 3-bet - though it's possible somebody flatted with JJ/QQ. But we don't know because we have no info on position or specific actions.

Hand 2 & 3: Really flawed logic. Chasing flushes with suited trash is not how you make money in poker. It's not as simple as hitting a flush 1 in every 50 hands or whatever. You're not taking into account all the money lost chasing flushes that miss, getting out-flushed (or losing to a full house), and folding your draw post flop because the pot odds/implied odds aren't profitable.

Plus, if you start betting every time you flop a draw, especially OOP, you're gonna get raised some of the time and have to fold. You shouldn't be betting every draw because you won't have enough fold equity in certain spots/boards.

Hand 4: People check to the preflop raiser most of the time and that check is rather meaningless.
 
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Online poker is illegal for the USA.
I wish I could play online.


Huh? There are numbers of USA players, including myself, playing online. Granted, it's not as easy or as convenient as it was pre-BF, but we're still doing it, and legally...
 
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Hand 4: People check to the preflop raiser most of the time and that check is rather meaningless.

Not where I play. People play their cards, not the bettor.
If they've got TP, they're betting out.
 
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Hand 2 & 3: Really flawed logic. Chasing flushes with suited trash is not how you make money in poker. It's not as simple as hitting a flush 1 in every 50 hands or whatever. You're not taking into account all the money lost chasing flushes that miss, getting out-flushed (or losing to a full house), and folding your draw post flop because the pot odds/implied odds aren't profitable.
Not to mention that you'll only flop a flush 1 out of every 100 hands.

Hand 4: People check to the preflop raiser most of the time and that check is rather meaningless.

Not where I play. People play their cards, not the bettor.
If they've got TP, they're betting out.

I'm sorry but that's just not the case, I don't care where you play. I don't know how to prove this, it's just an axiom of poker truth. Tell me, there's a preflop raise and a call. You're in the SB with A4o The flop comes [A97] You bet out? Why?
 
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Totally agree not chasing flushes with junk especially from the blinds.
You say you managed to get in cheap but in reality you wont make a flush often enough to pay for all the little limps. Flushes are obvious when they hit you are will be lucky to get paid off large especially oop. Its a leak. The best flushes are those that come in backdoor runner runner turn and river where you dont get any credit for having it.
chances of flopping a flush when suited is 0.84% about 111-1.
Chances of flopping a flush draw is also a lowly 10.9%..
If you are suited you will make a flush by the river 6.40%. of the time. Once you have been stacked a few times by bigger flushes you realise that flush chasing with junk just isnt profitable.
 
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Totally agree not chasing flushes with junk especially from the blinds.
You say you managed to get in cheap but in reality you wont make a flush often enough to pay for all the little limps. Flushes are obvious when they hit you are will be lucky to get paid off large especially oop. Its a leak. The best flushes are those that come in backdoor runner runner turn and river where you dont get any credit for having it.
chances of flopping a flush when suited is 0.84% about 111-1.
Chances of flopping a flush draw is also a lowly 10.9%..
If you are suited you will make a flush by the river 6.40%. of the time. Once you have been stacked a few times by bigger flushes you realise that flush chasing with junk just isnt profitable.

Taken under consideration.
Thank you.
 
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I'm sorry but that's just not the case, I don't care where you play. I don't know how to prove this, it's just an axiom of poker truth. Tell me, there's a preflop raise and a call. You're in the SB with A4o The flop comes [A97] You bet out? Why?

B/c top pair baby...

lol. Well allrighty then. I like you Rick, rock on!
 
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This was good to review.
In 3 of these hands, Hero has the balls to double barrel.
In 3 for 3 cases, V folded to the 2nd bet.
STAY STRONG and keep firing!!
 
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