£200 NLHE Full Ring: 3bet pot IP defending live game line check

Live £1/1

LJ: £250 loose recreational
HJ: £250
BB: £150 new to the table

LJ called, HJ with A♦Q♦ raised to £6, BB re-raised to £28. LJ folded and HJ called.

Flop: (£57, 2 players)
A♠7♠4♥

BB bet £22 and HJ called.

Turn: (£101, 2 players)
8♣

BB bet £100 (all in), HJ ?

Questions:
1. If you are HJ, would you fold on the turn or preflop?
2. What if you hold AJs?

With no reads I'd 4bet preflop.
As played I guess we have to call. It's a pot size bet we have to call so we can't fold top pair, even if it's AJ - we have to accept we will be beat here sometimes.
With no reads on villain we have to use math to justify a call and top pair easily has higher than 33% equity here.

In a live game, this seems like an obvious fold preflop to me. Most short stacked fish are weak tight players that 3bet infrequently.

I think I agree with the your action, and I would probably call that turn jam. I highly doubt he would play a set of aces so fast. Being a recreational player, I would think AK, AQ, AJ, KQs, and all pair from 77-AA are in his range.

Fold pre. Noone is 3betting wide enough to flat AQs, especially at that price imo.

I would have folded on the turn because they showed strength throughout the hand and you do not have any reads on the opponent. So you do not know his range and typically if they have a pot beat they have 2 pairs already that makes their range better than your strong ace. Second question, AJs doesn't matter because you would only continue if you had a flush draw and pair for more equity verse a pot bet.

Villain 3bet you over 4x your initial raise. I know it might look like a tight fold, but it's the right one. Fold pre-flop to avoid these situations. This is AA, AK, and total spew bluffs. An occasional set of 7s. But without any reads on him, this should be a fold pre. You simply are not getting good enough odds to call.

I was playing AKs from BB and 3bet >4x due to loose rec who may still call my raise. Reckon turn shove is not a good move generally as some may fold AQ at this spot but HJ tank-called.


Yes I also agree that I wouldn't 3bet OOP wide enough in live game as 1/1 players call too many raises preflop.