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$200 NL HE Full Ring: $300 NLHE LIVE Full Ring

This question is regarding a 1/3 table, although the dropdown doesn't provide such a selection..

I'm recently new at this table, (sat down 1 orbit ago) and I look down at KK UTG. This is a 9 handed table and I have a stack of $250.

I raise to $15.

2 Folds
UTG+3 calls $15 (Stack = $250)
HJ Calls $15 (Stack = $400)
CO Calls $15 (Stack = $800)

UTG+3 is a fish. He will chase draws regardless of anything. He earlier called flop and turn bets and folded a blank river with only $50 left in a $300 pot.

HJ is a LAG donk. Overplays TPNK and likes to reshove on draws.

CO is a fish similar to UTG+3. He called a bet with no odds to hit a backdoor flush...

After rake, pot is $60.

FLOP : 265r

I bet $45, UTG+3 folds. HJ and CO both call. Pot: $195 Current Stack: $190

Turn: 7s. This puts a second spade on the board, as there is a 6s.

How do you continue?

Pot is currently larger than my stack and I think the only bet I can make is a shove otherwise fold.

Is shoving profitable?
 
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Very easy shove. We're not giving check/folding any consideration, so shove way outpoints check/call in this spot
 
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IMHO, bet more on the flop. At least one of the chasers is likely to have hit this flop enough to be worrisome. I would overbet the pot here to $75.

As played, yep shove here.
 
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Cool, thanks guys. Shove is what I did. They both folded.
 
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I like to bet around 120 at the turn and yes...i know that only leaves you $70 behind. My reasoning is this; you're losing to sets, two pairs, and straights that are never folding and the way the hand has played out to this point, if they have you beat they have you beat. Checking isn't an option so what I would want to do is make my bet look like an AK/AQ type hand that isn't willing to put the whole stack at risk but doesn't want to give up. It's esentially the same bet as an all-in and you're not giving any draws the right price.

Obviously this depends on your image and play style, but if the fish really do like draws or their weak aces (ace 6 might give you action if they're really that bad, and 64 looks a whole lot better with the 7 on the turn) why not make the bet a little smaller? If you never shove with a pot sized bet without the goods you're not getting action by anything that you have beat.

Insta shove the river on any card and call the raise if they do so on the turn. If they suck out on you with some backdoor draw then so be it, You want that kind of action. And if they have you beat already, your chosen line also gives them all your chips anyways.

Only other way would to small ball and check call turn and river....but that's just weak/passive and I don't like it.
 
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