$200 NLHE Full Ring: 2Pr vs. Prof-LAG's Button-Straddle

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A friendly poker pro from germany (villain) was 2 seats to my left at Imperial Palace, with over $1500 in front of him. (He'd been playing all night.) I had about $380 in front of me ($300max buyin), and had been playing very tight for about 2 hours. (Earlier, another player said to me: "c'mon, play a hand".) Villain had regularly done a button-straddle (bet $4 before action starts, so action starts with SB, BB, and Btn acts last). He seemed to always end up betting these hands very strongly and stealing the pots (eg: $12 pre-flop or more post-flop).

On one of his button straddles, I had :as4: :9s4: in Hijack, so I raised to $15. He said (in German accent): "You raise my straddle?", then he called -- w/o looking at his cards.

Flop ($33): :5h4::8d4::9c4:

I bet $50 with my TP. He peeked at cards and called.

Turn ($133): :ad4:
I bet $80 w my T2P, and he calls.

River($293): :7h4:
I have about $240 left. My move?
 
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Actually I prefer betting around $150 and calling off if he shoves
 
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just jam and bemoan ur luck when he calls with 65
 
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p.s. I must play in the craziest live games in the world.
 
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Bet less on the flop
Bet more on the turn

River sucks. I guess c/c if he's stabby/aggro, but be willing to call of your stack (that's what the bet is going to be whether he has a straight or not). Bad spot to be in against an aggro player

Block bet/folding is pretty bad imo since it's a blatantly obvious defensive bet so it probably still won't stop him from moving in on you, and i can't see what we're extracting value out of with a blocker bet that is called by a good player
 
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I'm assuming turn was an A, doesn't show on my monitor though.

I don't understand the overbet on the pot. Now, what is he peeling flop and turn with? You're only beating A8,A5, and T7. I don't think he gets to the river with a single pair, especially since you're a nit that raised his straddle.

JT got there, however 75,85,97 made 2 pairs which he's probably not folding.

You're definitely ahead of he's continuing range. Not sure if b/c or just shove is the right thing to do, I think c/c is no good because he's unlikely to turn SD value into a bluff if he has any kind of sense. Stoving a likely calling range for him you get 65.5% :

Hand 0: 65.556% 63.33% 02.22% 57 2.00 { As9s }
Hand 1: 34.444% 32.22% 02.22% 29 2.00 { AA, 99-55, A9s-A8s, A5s, 97s+, 95s, 87s, 85s, 75s+, A9o-A8o, A5o, 97o+, 95o, 87o, 85o, 75o+ }

Love the hand btw :D
 
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I'm assuming turn was an A, doesn't show on my monitor though.

I don't understand the overbet on the pot. Now, what is he peeling flop and turn with? You're only beating A8,A5, and T7. I don't think he gets to the river with a single pair, especially since you're a nit that raised his straddle.

JT got there, however 75,85,97 made 2 pairs which he's probably not folding.

You're definitely ahead of he's continuing range. Not sure if b/c or just shove is the right thing to do, I think c/c is no good because he's unlikely to turn SD value into a bluff if he has any kind of sense. Stoving a likely calling range for him you get 65.5% :

Hand 0: 65.556% 63.33% 02.22% 57 2.00 { As9s }
Hand 1: 34.444% 32.22% 02.22% 29 2.00 { AA, 99-55, A9s-A8s, A5s, 97s+, 95s, 87s, 85s, 75s+, A9o-A8o, A5o, 97o+, 95o, 87o, 85o, 75o+ }

Love the hand btw :D


Thanks for all the feedback.

My overbet on the flop was an overreaction on my part to this player. I knew he hadn't seen his cards pre-flop, and I just wanted him out of the pot, and not chasing an inside-straight.

Looking back, I should have gone all-in on the turn, since at this point I was probably committed. I was hoping that If he called, he would have A5 or A8, and maybe I could extract some extra $$.

On the river, I bet $100 and called his push. He had A6, so I lost my stack. I think he would have called an all-in on the turn, anyway, just b/c he could. (Hell -- he called a huge bet on the flop w/ i-str-dr.) He said after: "My plan was to steal on the turn, then I decided to call and see what happened."

I think that this is why I can't hang w/ the pros, cuz that $300 means way more to me than it did to him.

CPlaya -- Can you explain the meanings of the percentages? Also, I assume H0 is my hand and H1 is his possible hands?

Thanks, again

-jmp
 
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Thanks for all the feedback.

My overbet on the flop was an overreaction on my part to this player. I knew he hadn't seen his cards pre-flop, and I just wanted him out of the pot, and not chasing an inside-straight.

Looking back, I should have gone all-in on the turn, since at this point I was probably committed. I was hoping that If he called, he would have A5 or A8, and maybe I could extract some extra $$.

On the river, I bet $100 and called his push. He had A6, so I lost my stack. I think he would have called an all-in on the turn, anyway, just b/c he could. (Hell -- he called a huge bet on the flop w/ i-str-dr.) He said after: "My plan was to steal on the turn, then I decided to call and see what happened."

I think that this is why I can't hang w/ the pros, cuz that $300 means way more to me than it did to him.

CPlaya -- Can you explain the meanings of the percentages? Also, I assume H0 is my hand and H1 is his possible hands?

Thanks, again

-jmp
Hand 0 is yours and the % beside it represents the equity it has vs Hand 1: which represents the perceived range of possible hands your opponent is likely to have here
 
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I think c/c is no good because he's unlikely to turn SD value into a bluff if he has any kind of sense.


I disagree. If player is good (as good as a live 1/2 player can be i guess?) he certainly has the ability to turn tons of sd value hands into bluffs on scary rivers. Heros hand looks like a strong one pair hand, so villain is going to valuetown all two pair+ hands and turn non two pairs showdown hands into bluffs (though in this instance i agree his range of showdownable 1 pair hands is very narrow given the action...T7, and 9dXd come to mind as most likely). Ontop of that he prob has the knowledge that hero is playing on slightly scared money, since I got that impression just from reading this thread, making ti further likely for him to put him to the test
 
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I disagree. If player is good (as good as a live 1/2 player can be i guess?) he certainly has the ability to turn tons of sd value hands into bluffs on scary rivers. Heros hand looks like a strong one pair hand, so villain is going to valuetown all two pair+ hands and turn non two pairs showdown hands into bluffs (though in this instance i agree his range of showdownable 1 pair hands is very narrow given the action...T7, and 9dXd come to mind as most likely). Ontop of that he prob has the knowledge that hero is playing on slightly scared money, since I got that impression just from reading this thread, making ti further likely for him to put him to the test

Err you're reading way too much into things, I mean where will we end up if we start assuming villain thinks hero is scared money just from reading a HH?

The thing is, if he has very few 1 pair hands in his range then checking is just silly, he's not going to bet his 2 pairs all the time, and when he does he does it for value and would call a shove anyway. Kind of hard to put Hero on a 6, except for 66. The 1 pair hands he has are very few and do not offset the worse hands that check behind imo
 
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