$200 NLHE Full Ring: 2 hands- same player- overbet shove on dry board

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Live game.This is towards the end of the session. We started 9 handed and now we are 5 handed.
Same villain.
Villain is pretty tag and capable. His bluffs are very aggressive. We have history and been playing together for quite some time.
My image at this table- very loose. Any two cards. At this session I've been the most active player, playing a lot of pots. 3betting, squeezing,4betting etc.


Any comments would be much appreciated!


1st hand
Folds to villain on button (just two folds- 5 handed)
He raises to $17 (just a bit over standard at this table, usually its $10-$12) - ~$900 behind.
SB calls.- ~$400 behind
I'm in BB with :10c4::10h4: raise to $66. - ~$700 behind.
My reasoning - I would not mind to finish the hand right here as playing 1010 oop, against a big stack, is not ideal, though post flop I feel I'm better than both players if either calls. With that said, we are 5 handed and its a pretty good pair. So I think this is standard.
Villain calls.
SB folds.


Flop- Pot $133
:2c4::3h4::6d4:
I bet $120.
Why? because of my image. I want him to float as he knows I can be with literally anything there. I'll keep the pressure on the turn and most likely shove river (if he is passive).
Villain calls.


Turn - Pot $373
:4s4:
I was going to bet $140. I didn't want to check as I would have to call almost any of his bets and then most likely check/call the river as well. I was expecting him to call and then I would shove river. But...villain acts out of turn and goes all in :confused:. He apologizes profusely, being tired and all


Now if I check, his all-in is in effect....and I know what to expect later. I tank.


Hero?


2nd hand
2 hands after:
UTG limps
Villain limps.
Button limps.
I'm in SB with :5s4::5d4: raise to $22. Usually I pick up the pot right there with this bet and if not, one cbet on the flop or turn does the job, especially if I iso. I have $500 behind. Villain covers.
BB folds.
UTG folds.
Villain (CO) calls and button calls.


Flop - Pot is $70
:4s4::6h4::9d4:
I cbet $44. Decent chance I'm good now, have a backdoor straight and again given my image I expect at least one floater.
Villain calls. Button folds.


Turn- Pot is $154.
:7h4:
Good card for me. If villain has an overpair I'd expect a call to my turn bet. If he has a 9 a call as well and I bet river profitably, especially if I hit my straight.
I bet $78.
Villain shoves....:eek:
Hero?
 
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You bet 120 into a 133 w/ a medium PP for your image? It's 1/2 NL live. Just think about your sizing and stack depth here. You bet that much, you're planning on getting 350bbs in w/ TT. If you think your villain is stacking off w/ worse, then good game selection. Any ways, as played on the turn, fold. If you have some read that he'll make a play, then go w/ that, but it seems unreasonable for most players to be shoving w/ worse there.

2nd hand, no idea why you're raising pre in a live game w/ a small pair oop. You're defeating the whole purpose of getting bad live players to pay off when you flop sets by getting people out of the pot and bloating the pot oop.

Check the turn... no idea what you're thinking or why you're betting. The 7 hit your opponents range. Other than a 4, there's no worse hand that's calling.
 
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You bet 120 into a 133 w/ a medium PP for your image? It's 1/2 NL live. Just think about your sizing and stack depth here. You bet that much, you're planning on getting 350bbs in w/ TT. If you think your villain is stacking off w/ worse, then good game selection. Any ways, as played on the turn, fold. If you have some read that he'll make a play, then go w/ that, but it seems unreasonable for most players to be shoving w/ worse there.

2nd hand, no idea why you're raising pre in a live game w/ a small pair oop. You're defeating the whole purpose of getting bad live players to pay off when you flop sets by getting people out of the pot and bloating the pot oop.

Check the turn... no idea what you're thinking or why you're betting. The 7 hit your opponents range. Other than a 4, there's no worse hand that's calling.

- 1st handYes, was planning exactly that because of my image. I can definitely say I will get paid with worse if I were to get called on the turn- I just did not think a shove was coming.
- 2nd hand I agree checking would be better on the turn. I still think that on this specific table, isoing is much more profitable than chasing sets.
 
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Although not many responses...I'll share the results:Folded both hands.
First hand villain hit a set of 4s on the turn.
Second hand villain had nothing. Pure bluff.
 
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Unless there is a chance Villain is angle shooting the first hand is a fold. I can't imagine your TT has 40% equity against a turn shove.

On the second hand I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish. In the small blind you will be out of position the rest of the hand if called and your description of the game makes it look like you'll get called as you do. The flop doesn't hit your range very hard, so it is possible Villain thinks you are bluffing.and is putting you to the test.


Not a good ide to play for stacks with just 55, no matter how bad the board is.
 
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First hand: preflop and flop play is fine but notice you changed your strategy midway for no apparent reason (you planned to keep up pressure on the turn and/or shove by river). Your turn bet of $140 would have no real purpose (do you want a call or a fold?) as it doesn’t keep pressure and gives him odds to draw or come over the top (putting you in the tough spot you got in). Advice: don’t make a strategy for the rest of the hand when u are still getting information.


Given his shove, his line makes sense for 55, JJ, QQ, with slightest chance at a set. He’s not bluffing since your image is very loose, giving you very little equity to call (praying he has an 88 or 99).
 
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