$200 NLHE Full Ring: 2 hands at insane $1/$2 game live

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$200 NL HE Full Ring: 2 hands at insane $1/$2 game live

This was the craziest $1/$2 game I've ever seen, it was playing like $5-$10 with straddles and a tilting maniac who was in the hole $2k.

KTo for stacks preflop:

Maniac was raising to $50 or so preflop in the dark, betting each street without looking at his hands.

I couldn't catch a hand against him.

I'm on the button and I call Mississippi for $6 (straddle that starts the action with the small blind).

I hear maniac say, "Yo this is the first time I've seen a face card in ages, I'm not even going to look at the other one."

He's first to act and raises to $45, with about $450 behind. He gets a cold caller, a LAGGY kid who had doubled up off him, but now seems to be scared money. He has $300 behind. I put him on a range of small pairs, 22-99, Ax, Kxs, broadways. I think he would reraise with JJ+, AK. So the strongest hands he MIGHT have are 99-TT, AQ.

I have KTo on the button (and I finish the action because of Mississippi) with $180. Maniac looks at the other card and I hear him say "wow, the other one's not too good though."

This is an easy shove right? I'm 100% sure maniac is calling.


Hand 2:
AKo to scary backraise

Decent LAGgy guy limps UTG, I put him on a range of any 2 suited cards.

I'm UTG+2 with AKo, I announce raise, he looks at me and I say, I'll keep it small just for you. I raise to $11 (preflop raises at this table were often $50). 1 fold, very solid player cold calls. 2 more calls. LAGGY kid on button raises to $50. UTG folds.

I call -- mistake?

Solid player 2 to my left raises to $175. Button calls.

I have $1000 and both players have about $500-$600 behind.

Snap fold?
 
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I wouldn't shove with KTo in the first hand because it doesn't work as a squeeze play -- the guy in the middle (the maniac) you assume is always calling, and by him staying in the pot it's giving the laggy guy better odds to overcall, like 3:1. If he thinks he has decent equity in the pot he's staying in. And there's always the chance the maniac has a real hand. I'd just let that one go and wait for a chance when you can isolate him and get heads up.

On Hand 2 I don't think it was a mistake to call the $50 reraise since you're saying that was a standard preflop raise at your table anyway, and the reraiser may have thought you were weak for raising to $11 instead. With the solid player flatting your raise, however, then reraising the 3-bettor, that's where I'd get out in a hurry.

It's interesting that table talk could have made a difference in the action of both of these hands.
 
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1. My feeling on hand one was that maniac was 100% telling the truth that he had a face card with a little card. My feeling was that the LAG was now scared money, having doubled up, he was less prone to float in big pots. I figure I have maniac crushed, like 2-1, and am slightly behind LAG's range (broadways, pairs, Ax, Kx), and he might fold some of the range that is slightly ahead (small Ax, small pairs, maybe KJ).

I agree it's a little thin, and calling perhaps was a better play, but I felt I had to get it in crushing the maniac with either dead money or a flip against the other.

2. Two things saved me from shoving into teh AA: The maniac for some reason wasn't in the hand, and I had no idea what to make of the button's reraise to $50. I think if he had JJ/QQ type hands, or AK, that he'd just shove. I figured either A. he was trying to steal, cause no one had shown enormous strength, or B. he had AA/KK and wanted more in the pot.

If the maniac was still in the hand, I'd have just shoved and hope for a three-way with the same villains with AKo in there for a $1500 pot. I was a little uneasy shipping 250-300 BBs preflop with AKo with a big reraise and another player left to act.
 
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I dont think im pushing 90BB into any pot at a live game at any stakes with K10o. You described the table well, and to me if your right play them post flop. You will be suprised what flatting with AK to an early raise can do in live games with multiple fish. All you have to do is set a trap, and wait its made me so much money praying on weekend players, who are there to drink and have fun.

And in the second hand after raising preflop to ~11, it getting flatted by two players, and then repopped on the button, you call the repop only for it to be raised again too ~175? im probarbly folding here everytime to much action. At worst we are seeing QQ here most times QQ+ unless there is going to be alot of dead money or you know people flat and then 4bet with less no point.
 
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I believe the KTo may be a very good read by you but I'd probably still just wait for a better spot...
the AK I feel is instafold after the action...
 
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Hand 1 in an insta-fold.
KT has good showdown equity against next to nothing. We hoping he has K4 or something because he told us so....

If were shoving for fold equity we'd also be foolish to do so because its a live game. Everyones loose as **** especially this tilting guy.
 
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I'm shoving for value vs. the maniac, to be honest not really concerned if other guy comes along because we're flipping against his range and at least 35% to triple up.
 
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Yah definetely shoving the KTo hand vs the maniac and we DEF want the 3rd party out, but not terrible if he's in there and We're live.
Hand 2 is definetely a SNAP FOLD.
 
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