$200 NLHE Full Ring: $1/$3 Live - A sick spot for JJ

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I just played a session of $1/$3 live at my local casino and this was the biggest pot I was involved in. I'm unsure if I played the hand correctly or not. My read on the villain is that he's a decent reg but is definitely on the loose gambling side of the spectrum. For the most part, he's a fairly passive player, but I do believe that he's capable of bluffing.

Hero (SB) has a $500 stack
Villain (CO) has a $1000 stack

Hero is dealt Js Jc

Hero (SB) posts $1
BB posts $3
UTG calls $3
2 folds
MP1 raises to $8
1 fold
Villain (CO) calls $8
1 fold
Hero (SB) raises to $40
3 folds
Villain (CO) calls $40

~$85 in pot (2 players)
Flop shows Td 7s 3d

Hero bets $50
Villain calls $50

~$180 in pot (2 players)
Turn shows Ac

Hero checks
Villain bets $100
Hero calls $100

~$380 in pot (2 players)
River shows Qd

Hero checks
Villain bets $220
Hero folds

What do you think about the way hero played this hand?
 
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You jacks block his straight. So he's definitely representing the flush. If you add up all the preflop bets it comes out to 94 assuming your recollection is accurate. So your 50$ bet on the flop gives him great odds to draw (with the reverse implied considered) maybe a bet closer to 70-100 would have been better here?

Its really hard to tell what he has though. Definitely a gross spot. I feel like we can rule out drawing to an overpair though since he called your flop bet, which he wouldn't do without a good draw or a made hand. he could have pocket pairs since he called your 3bet, but we can't really rule out the flush since your cbet seemed a little on the weak side.

I think I would have to say, bet 100 on the flop and if he calls check/fold the turn
 
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If you add up all the preflop bets it comes out to 94 assuming your recollection is accurate.

You have to take rake into account, which is 10% capped at $15. I think the numbers I gave were pretty accurate once you account for rake.

I bet a little over half pot on the flop, which I thought was fairly standard, especially given that this is a 3bet pot and you'll typically bet a lower % of the pot in 3bet/4bet pots compared to 2bet pots. Tbh I expected him to fold about 90% of his range on the flop. I was actually kind of surprised when he called and I started panicking when the Ace came on the turn. I thought he's either got an Ace that floated me, or he has a set, or maybe he has a low to medium pocket pair that doesn't believe my Cbet. I thought that a flush draw is possible too but I didn't want to bet the turn in case I got raised. I just wanted to reach showdown somewhat cheaply in the hopes that he just had a weak pair that would call 1 bet and then check it down after that.
 
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Yeah. I still think a stronger pot-sized bet on the flop would narrow his range better to something like AKs/AKo/TT+, which at that point he has you beat and you can safely give up the hand. I think the cheap showdown mentality gives you the risk of being drawn out on. Especially, if he's not calling your 3bet with pocket pairs, then he's likely calling your 3bet with overs or suited connectors

I didn't think about the rake though so yeah you're right about the pot size.
 
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Haven't read any replies yet.

So we can assign V 10x, PPS (not many), sets (maybe), and most importantly Ad-Xd.

As played I either bet/fold turn, or C/F. I think C/F is fine on turn here.

We aren't beating much at all.
 
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Ok read through other replies also.

I do agree a stronger bet would be better OTF. Maybe $75...

And I still lean towards C/F turn.
 
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Thinking about the spot a little more, and I'm wondering if calling preflop instead of raising would make sense here.. I hear people saying stuff about "keeping his range wide" in other threads, and I'm not really sure what that means. Does that apply here?
 
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If he's loose there should be no need to worry about his range getting to narrow, if he's a gambler he should be 3 betting this hand every time. The bad thing about checking the turn, you kind of put your hand face up, you played the hand fine though, I do think it is more +ev to bet the turn, if he is loose he could have hands that he is floating rather lightly on the flop because he has position. He should be barreling this river 100% vs your perceived range if he bet the turn. I think your better off folding on the turn if your not going to bet it yourself.
 
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$15 rake cap?!?!?!?! Find a new game.

3bet larger pre. This is a live game and we are Squeezing OOP and just bet/fold turn so you don't let villain put you to a tough decision. Not too sick of a spot, a sick spot would be facing an all in this deep on a 762 board.
 
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I think you played it fine. There's a good argument to be made for betting turn, but the A hits a decent amount of his range including A-high flush draws. On the river we only really beat 89s assuming that it called a 3bet. We can fold river pretty happily.
 
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Bet more on the flop and maybe bet the turn yourself. Can't call river. He's likely to check behind any hand with SDV that we beat, especially since your description is "fairly passive."
 
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