$200 NLHE Full Ring: $1/$3 Live - Flush Draw + OESD Facing Turn Shove

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200NL live with $1/$3 blinds played at my local casino.

3 players sitting out (only 6 on table at this point in time)
SB has $200
Hero (BB) has $200
UTG has $200
MP has $600
Villain (CO) has $400
BTN has $400

Villain is a fairly loose Asian gambler who plays a lot of hands and does a lot of limping preflop. He's lost multiple buyins this session but his stack is constantly going up and down.

Hero is dealt Ks 7s
SB posts $1
Hero (BB) posts $3
UTG calls $3
MP folds
Villain (CO) calls $3
BTN folds
SB calls $2
Hero (BB) checks

$12 in pot (4 players)
Flop shows Ts 9h 6s

SB checks
Hero checks
UTG checks
Villain bets $9
SB folds
Hero raises to $27
UTG folds
Villain calls $18

$60 in pot (2 players)
Turn shows Jc

Hero bets $55
Villain is ALL-IN (hero has $114 behind)
Hero calls $114

What are your thoughts on the way I played this hand? I flopped a flush draw and turned a double gutshot as well (equivalent to an OESD in equity). I like to play my draws aggressively, hence the check-raise on the flop and the large turn bet. On the turn, I tanked because I wasn't sure if I had the odds to call or not, but I eventually made the call.
 
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The pot if you were to call would be 289$ and you would only need to put in another 59$ to see the river and end the hand which means you only need to be right roughly 20% of the time to win the pot, you are also right! you have 15 outs x2 means you have around a 30% chance of hitting your card. It is +EV to call so i believe you made the right decision on the turn. My only problem is that i dont like to play big pots OOP, i like your play to 3bet your hand to 27$ but it may have been a better idea to just call the 9$. the point of the 3bet on the flop is to win the hand right there or disguise your flush draw but since you say villian and aggro he wont be folding this flop when you 3bet. preferably i would
check preflop
check call flop
check call turn
 
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The pot if you were to call would be 289$ and you would only need to put in another 59$ to see the river and end the hand which means you only need to be right roughly 20% of the time to win the pot, you are also right! you have 15 outs x2 means you have around a 30% chance of hitting your card. It is +EV to call so i believe you made the right decision on the turn. My only problem is that i dont like to play big pots OOP, i like your play to 3bet your hand to 27$ but it may have been a better idea to just call the 9$. the point of the 3bet on the flop is to win the hand right there or disguise your flush draw but since you say villian and aggro he wont be folding this flop when you 3bet. preferably i would
check preflop
check call flop
check call turn

No I meant hero has $114 behind AFTER making the $55 bet. So basically, hero had $169 on the turn and then hero bet $55 and then villain raised to $169.

I thought I could get the villain off a Tx hand by check-raising the flop and then barreling the turn, especially if a scare card came on the turn. That was my logic for playing the draw so aggressively. And whilst the villain was fairly loose, he wasn't full on spewy. He would chase draws without the correct odds, but if you applied enough pressure, he was capable of folding second and third pair.
 
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Sup.

My $0.02 here.

I don't like the raise OTF. We are against what seems to be a gambooler, and we probably don't have too much FE. We are increasing variance, and bloating the pot by raising. We are OOP, and could get into a tough spot on turn when we barrel.

We have 2nd NFD, and a gutter. We are just gambling taking the line you took.


See we could just call the flop, and check and see what V does on the turn. If he gives us a good price on turn (he won't), we could proceed. When we see the turn, we can certainly get a clearer idea of V's range based on his action (when we check to him).

There's no shame in just calling flop, and re-assessing the turn. However, we have turned this spot into a fight for our stack. I don't like it one bit. Position is the problem here. We can't control the size of the pot. And we are complicating things by bloating it. We are not value betting, we are bluffing. High variance line here.

V probably has at least 10x, but likely some 10x combo hand. But V could read us for exactly what we have here. I'm sure he is thinking about FD. So we are helping V get max value for his hand.
 
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I'm fine with the play of your hand except maybe the call, which I'm not sure you had the odds to call would of bet bigger. This is just a variance fest hand fwiw.
 
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