$200 NLHE 6-max: QQ backraise gets scary

$200 NL HE 6-max: QQ backraise gets scary

Villain 1 is a tag who folds really well to 3bets and doesn't 4bet very often (1.4); I expect if I reraise QQ here I'm getting it in bad against his range, plus there are some bad players (ahem BB) who are yet to act, so I flat. Another thing worth noting is I'm usually 3bet bluffing the shit out of players like this, but haven't been this session, so no history in that respect.

BB is like 70/15, has only a %4 3bet though so far over 80 hands.

Does the BB's presence in the hand open up UTG's range enough that we stack here profitably?

poker stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (MP): $262.30 (131.2 bb)
CO: $309.90 (155 bb)
BTN: $62.60 (31.3 bb)
SB: $231.65 (115.8 bb)
BB: $243.25 (121.6 bb)
UTG: $209 (104.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with Q♠ Q♣
UTG raises to $8, Hero calls $8, 3 folds, BB raises to $30, UTG raises to $209 and is all-in, Hero ...

man thats a tough call. With that action going on I'd say your QQ wouldn't be enough against 2 players. If it was just one I would push and see what happens. Considering there are 2 players there I wouldn't risk it. The BB was attempting a squeeze play that was reversed by villian 1. I would say villian 1 was not playing with his all in. If you had AA or KK its an obvious call, but with QQ I wouldn't be as comfortable calling. I would fold in this situation.

ChuckTs said:

Does the BB's presence in the hand open up UTG's range enough that we stack here profitably?

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I think so. I'm generally 4-bet shoving fairly wide here, like JJ+,AQ+ (sometimes wider depending on the fish) when stupid fish 3-bet me. Even if AQ isn't in his range here, you still are in great shape, especially if you think the fish might come along with such a big pot brewing.

The other thing to consider is that you are VASTLY underrepping your hand to UTG by flatting, so he could probably shove TT-JJ or whatever thinking he is ahead of the fish's range and just presuming that you would not flat with a hand that could call a shove. And if UTG is liable to get it in bad or fold then the dead money or the equity you have in covering him probably makes a difference. Tough spot tho as UTG's line is pretty strong but i don't think stacking off here is that bad. It would be an easy ship if the fish was a maniac rather than loose passive (since it tightens up both his range and UTG shoving range)