$200 NLHE 6-max: AJs flats in BB, flops TP

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$200 NL HE 6-max: AJs flats in BB, flops TP

Fairly standard spot and figured I'd get some input on creative ways to play this hand.
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$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Hero (BB): $230.72 (115.4 bb)
CO: $269.44 (134.7 bb)
UTG: $231.80 (115.9 bb)
MP: $409.07 (204.5 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $218.95 (109.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with J
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A
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3 folds, BTN raises to $6, SB folds, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($13) A
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(2 players)
Hero...

There are a ton of different lines I can take here. I could check/call, check/raise and donk. Regardless of the flop, I can do a lot of different things on the turn. The only thing I can't do is check/fold.

Villain is a 21/18 pretty decent reg. Aggressive postflop. Has higher-than-average 2- and 3-barreling frequencies. Does not go to showdown much. Raises flop a ludicrous amount (32%) but I only have 1.5k hands on him and I suspect I have a sample size issue there so take that value with a grain of salt, although I think it's fair to assume that it's still high.

His c-bet is 71%.

My default line here is to c/c, c/c, c/c, or bet the river if he checks back the turn. I think an argument for donking the flop hoping to induce a bluff raise may have some merit. Thoughts?
 
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Yeah my standard is just c/c line, bet river if turn goes ch/ch.

Donking is great if he doesn't see you as a solid reg because he'll raise everything, but he should know that a donk from you is rarely a bluff here. I guess we could start donk bluffing in spots like these to balance but that's kinda weird.

I'm not sure this would work with your image, but c/raising is awesome if he's aggressive enough. When I see someone with 22/18 or 25/22 check-raising this board I usually assume it's just a swing at the pot with 67s or JT or 22 or something and often repop him. From a taggier 'nit' (;)) like yourself I'd assume there were way more sets and, more importantly, top pairs in his range, and therefore give up way easier, but it's something to think about.

Ch/c, donk is interesting too. I do it often with 88 (maybe not as often on this board texture) in spots where it's really hard to call down and we don't want villain to check back KQ or something with decent equity that will fold the turn donk. Got that from Alan ;) But if villain has seen us show down a weak made hand then I really like donking since he'll either call down light or bump it up on the turn as a bluff some of the time which is nice.

Overall though I'm probably taking the passive c/c line like %80-90 of the time.
 
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if you think he's aggrro enough to raise your donk bet both as a bluff and for value (with hands worse than yours, like A6, KK, QQ, whatever), then i like donking the flop, calling the raise, and then donking the turn.

if you think that might be putting too many chips in the pot via weird line, then c/c, donk or just c/c, c/c, bet river is kool too
 
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What Chuck said imo. If we ch/r the only hands we get action from are the ones that beat us and the ones he decides to turn into bluffs. I doubt he turns enough hands into bluffs for us to profitably call down and make up for the hands that he does have. So I just like ch/c along with mixing in donking although I'm the opposite of Chuck. I think regs fold far too often to reg donk bets so when I donk here I'm actually doing it to balance the times I have air for when he decides to call me down with 2nd pair.
 
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I like the ch/c line. I'd be more likely to donk with AQ/AK as there are more smaller aces from which the donking line extracts value.
 
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