$200 NLHE 6-max: 2pair facing turn c/r ott 200BB in 3b pot

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$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $211.70 (105.9 bb)
BB: $292 (146 bb)
UTG: $216.85 (108.4 bb)
MP: $187.90 (94 bb)
CO: $624.37 (312.2 bb)
Hero (BTN): $398.10 (199.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9h Kc
UTG folds, MP raises to $6, CO calls $6, Hero raises to $24, 3 folds, CO calls $18

Flop: ($57) Qs 3s 9c (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $25, CO calls $25

Turn: ($107) Kd (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $65, CO raises to $140, Hero?

Didn't have a lot of hands on villain, probably around 20-40 and he had tagish stats up this point. Zero reads, nothing. Think he might have viewed me as rather aggressive, even if the sample was very small I think I can recall I had been very active.

So how would you proceed here? JTs gets there, KQ seems like a very possible hand as well and so does 99 and 33. For bluffs I am not sure, weaker pairs turned into a bluff? FDs?

Thoughts?
 
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meh, HJ is short and CO is super deep and this hand doesn't flop to anything. I just fold pre. If it were suited I'd flat and flush-mine.

As played it's actually an easy call assuming he can have KJ/QJ, [As][10s]+, and [Ks][10s]+ (and he will almost certainly have many more Aces and might have a couple more Kings than that). You're getting 4:1 and you actually still have anywhere between 30 and 45%.

In fact, the only way you don't have enough odds to call here is if he can't have QJ/QT OR weak Ace FDs, which seems absurd.
 
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Feel like cutoff is c/r 9s and 3s on this rather wet flop. I give 3 combos to J10 as J10os should probably be folding OOP and J10 spades is an obv c/r. KQ is possible.

IMO this is a flat and re-eval. KJ/K10, Ax spades, even J10 is in our range so I'm comfortable bluff-shoving a lot of rivers. Not to mention there are a lot of semi-bluffs in his range, as Aleksei pointed out.
 
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played fine/now fold
I don't see how squeezing K9o is fine here. Offsuited 3-gappers aren't spec hands so when CO flats (and he will more often than we need to autoprofit because we're deep so he's flatting most of his spec range), our RIOs are terrible.
 
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make money from folds pre and when they check-fold the flop. We have a hand that will flop good top pairs so we can get 2 streets of value from JJ on K72 + get called an idiot
and we have blockers to a good portion of PFR's nut range.

so he's flatting most of his spec range

If villains are flatting with speculative hands because we're deep then we need to squeeze hands like K9o that we will almost never stack off with to protect our value range.
our RIOs are terrible

We're not playing this hand for implied odds and if you're worried about RIO in position then you just suck at poker. People rarely flat OOP with Kx hands (or AK for that matter).

Edit: IF this is a live game, then $1-$2 live players never have anything when they 3x in MP so I'd be squeezing here with any face card and worse.
 
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K9os is a fine squeeze. We have position, we TID a lot preflop and a lot postflop plus it's an easy fold to 4bet.
 
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While reading this post I did a squeeze with K9o IP lol. Mine worked out better with folds around. As played, I fold. As baudib said though, it was played fine.
 
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While reading this post I did a squeeze with K9o IP lol. Mine worked out better with folds around. As played, I fold. As baudib said though, it was played fine.

I like a fold at up to ~50NL as I doubt our opponents are sophisticated enough to c/r draws and air, but at 200NL this seems standard for hands worse than ours naw?
 
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I like a fold at up to ~50NL as I doubt our opponents are sophisticated enough to c/r draws and air, but at 200NL this seems standard for hands worse than ours naw?

I pulled this in 25nl. They are thinking enough at 25nl to make folds. 2, 5, and 10nl squeezes are useless though
 
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I pulled this in 25nl. They are thinking enough at 25nl to make folds. 2, 5, and 10nl squeezes are useless though

I meant fold post-turn, but yeah I agree with you on the squeezes.
 
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I accidentally deleted part of my post but yeah, K9o is going to be one of the very best hands to squeeze as a bluff with. We aren't looking squeezing with it to flop the nuts or cooler people.
 
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I accidentally deleted part of my post but yeah, K9o is going to be one of the very best hands to squeeze as a bluff with. We aren't looking squeezing with it to flop the nuts or cooler people.

Couldn't agree more. I want 100% folds here. When we're called were only happy with like KK9 lol
 
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K99 would be preferable TBH.

As for the actual hand, Baudib hit the nail on the head. I think you played it fine and now need to find a fold.
 
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I don't see how squeezing K9o is fine here. Offsuited 3-gappers aren't spec hands so when CO flats (and he will more often than we need to autoprofit because we're deep so he's flatting most of his spec range), our RIOs are terrible.

It's a pretty ideal spot and situation to squeeze really.

Aside from that, I'd fold the turn. The sizing and everything screams call me. Kx is definitely in your range, and it's doubtful he's CRing worse. So you are mostly drawing slim at best now.
 
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