$200 NL O8 Full Ring: should i have not looked at the flop to begin with?

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pokerstars Game #32173218517: Omaha Hi/Lo No Limit ($1/$2 USD) - 2009/08/28 20:03:31 ET
Table 'Eurynome VIII' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: MoleAA ($87.80 in chips)
Seat 2: GalatiaKid ($201 in chips)
Seat 3: goforlowonly ($208.90 in chips)
Seat 5: 420ffsuit ($291.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Howling Moon ($51.35 in chips)
Seat 7: GSM100 ($189.65 in chips)
Seat 8: SydSyd ($330.05 in chips)
Seat 9: XimieN ($195.30 in chips)
XimieN: posts small blind $1
MoleAA: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to goforlowonly [Qh Ac Ks Qc]
GalatiaKid: folds
goforlowonly: calls $2
420ffsuit: folds
Howling Moon: folds
GSM100: calls $2
SydSyd: folds
XimieN: calls $1
MoleAA: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js Jc 3d]
XimieN: checks
MoleAA: checks
goforlowonly: checks
GSM100: checks
*** TURN *** [Js Jc 3d] [Qd]
XimieN: checks
MoleAA: checks
goforlowonly: bets $12
GSM100: folds
XimieN: raises $24 to $36
MoleAA: folds
goforlowonly: calls $24
*** RIVER *** [Js Jc 3d Qd] [Jd]
XimieN: bets $104
goforlowonly said, "GODDAMN"
goforlowonly said, "tuned queens full"
goforlowonly said, "only card u win with"
goforlowonly: folds
Uncalled bet ($104) returned to XimieN
XimieN collected $77 from pot
XimieN: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $80 | Rake $3
Board [Js Jc 3d Qd Jd]
Seat 1: MoleAA (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: GalatiaKid folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: goforlowonly folded on the River
Seat 5: 420ffsuit folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Howling Moon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: GSM100 folded on the Turn
Seat 8: SydSyd (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: XimieN (small blind) collected ($77)

thats the only card in the whole deck that couldve beat me--and im glad i didnt repush him allin on the turn--or should i have?
 
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I'm not an Omaha player, but I'm thinking you're being way too results oriented, the turn is a great place to get it all in - what hands beat you on the turn, and what draws will beat you on the river? Assuming you're right that he's holding the case J, he pretty much hit a one outer (3 outs if he's holding KKJx or AAJx, both of which are extremely unlikely given your hand).

Also, the title is jk i hope? Isn't this a premium hand preflop?
 
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Raise preflop, you want to build the pot in order to get your stack in.

Jam the turn, as quads are the only thing that beats you, and quads are kinda hard to make.
 
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as said above, jam the turn but also kinda hard to fold this on river when A ton of ppl will be doing this with missed draws and mid to high pairs
 
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well i knew he had the jack---no raise does he raise me on the turn without one--and also dont forget its hilow--so its not really that great a handd preflop
 
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It's still a very strong hand preflop. For the most part you are looking for boards that aren't going to have much in the way of low cards. So when low cards come out you aren't going to be hitting your hand anyways. There is a lot of ways you can make the nut high hands which is what you want.
 
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Would have jammed the turn. What makes you think he didn't have the nut flush there?
 
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well i knew he had the jack---no raise does he raise me on the turn without one--and also dont forget its hilow--so its not really that great a handd preflop
High only hands go up in value in PLO8/NLO8 when compared to LO8.
 
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