200 6Max - I get squeezed and see a flop w 99

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Villain is 39/20, and although my sample was only a few hundred hands, his squeeze% was 8% for what that's worth. His stack was only $170. His postflop aggression factor was 1.9, I think.

A reg opens for $7 UTG, I call in the CO with 99, and the 39/20 raises to $30 from the BB. Reg folds. I tank for a little while and toy with the idea of shoving. I end up calling, because I have position and I think I can get away from my hand on broadway boards.

The flop comes T-3-3, pot is $65, and he bets out for $50. This is about as safe a flop as I can realistically hope for, and I try to decide how to proceed. I can shove here, trying to protect my hand from overcards, or I can peel the flop and see if I can get him to bluff all-in on the turn.

The turn is an 8, he shoves, offering me 255:90 (or a little less than 3:1).

I run through my options again, try to decide if I'm overplaying my pair but decide that it looks like he's trying to get me to fold, so I don't.

Good? Awful?

If he plays all his bluffs and all his made hands the same way, I have a clear call, because his range includes AK and AQ (of which there are 32 combos) and JJ-AA (of which there are 24). But is AQ as likely as JJ or AA?
 
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cbet% and turn cbet% (too few hands to that?) ? If it's high enough i like. Not a huge fan of ending up playing for stacks, but i think every street is fine on its own.

also, your hand converter (love it, btw) left out the suits. Any flushiness ?
 
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No; rainbow flop. Sorry, I should have mentioned that.

His c-bet% and double-barrel frequence WAS high (which helped me in my decision) but I'm wary about the usefulness of those numbers in 3-bet pots. Thoughts on that? Do they apply?
 
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His c-bet% and double-barrel frequence WAS high (which helped me in my decision) but I'm wary about the usefulness of those numbers in 3-bet pots. Thoughts on that? Do they apply?

Not literally, but they do give indications on the player's style.

A player with a high cbet% is probably cbetting 100% of his squeezing range now that he has to play OOP, and i do think you're a ahead of his squeezing range on that flop. And then the odds are just too good on turn.

Villain showed up with JTs, i guess? :eek:
 
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I really don't like defending 99 the way you did because you're not deep enough. Way too many bad flops will hit.
I think you're supposed to ship this preflop if you feel his squeezing range is reasonably wide. 8% isn't particularly wide btw.

When he bets $65 on the flop, does he only leave $75 behind? In this case I'd just stick it in right there. You can't fold that board after calling pre.
 
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Yeah I'm shipping this pf most of the time unless the original opener is really nitty, and therefore the squeezer's range will probably be a lot tighter.

Postflop we really aren't getting very many good flops, and are most of the time in a pretty shitty spot equity-wise.

Doing this with KQs on the other hand and shoving flops like these or flops where we have like overs+GS or OESD is much better. When we get called with the 9s we're usually drawing to 2 outs.
 
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I'd just ship it in pre. Way to hard to know which flops are good or bad. If he is squeezing light then you just fold way too much on K or A flops even tho he probably doesn't have either all that often (KQs, AK, AQ is about it for value). + you are good vs these hands preflop and you are going to get stacked if villain has TT+ anyways on alot of flops.
 
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Shoving pre is +EV, says my 1337 maths (assuming 8% is the true number, and that he calls with TT+, AQ+)


Fold equity: (3.3/8)(44) = 18.15
Equity versus his range when I'm called: (4.7/8)(0.6*(-163) + 0.4*(184)) = (4.7/8)*(-97.8 + 73.6) = -14.1

EV = $4.

And yeah, I agree with all your other points, Chris... And Taylor and Feitr.
 
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By the way, this is the sort of passive/FPS tilt that starts creeping into my game when I run like shit. Seriously, **** february.

Grawr.
 
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