$20 NLHE Full Ring: Unconventional line with flush draw

Villain is new to me and I haven't got any notes on him even though he's been sitting at the table for a while which suggests he hasn't really done anything out of the ordinary. Although one note I would make is that quite a few times in the last half hour he has called my pfr and folded to a cbet so maybe he's fed up of this.

UTG ($18)
MP ($22.40)
CO - Hero($20.90)
BTN - Villain($29.58)
SB ($16.48)
BB ($24)

Hero is dealt Ah,9h
Preflop ($0.30)
2 folds, hero raises to $0.60, BTN calls, 2 folds

Flop ($1.43) is 10h,3h,8s
Hero bets $0.80, villain raises to $1.60, hero calls

Turn ($4.47) is Qd
Hero checks, villain bets $3.52, hero raises to $8.20, villain folds

Ok so obviously this isn't the most convential line I've taken here but the main reason I posted the hand is because I find flush draws difficult to play when you face a raise on the flop and you are oop. Should I be re raising the flop? After I decided to call his raise on the flop I thought the queen is a good card for me to represent and one which could make him fold a ten. Calling the turn would be bad I think since we aren't getting the right odds and we are oop, so I decided to make the check raise as I thought he would probably fold a ten and if he does call it's not so bad because we have outs and if he re raises I guess I'll have to fold. What do you guys think? Mainly what should I be doing on the flop?

At first i thought 3betting the flop might be kind of sexy but after thinking about it more im ok calling to hit our draw. This is because his range looks like semi bluffs and sets(doubt he flats qq+ pre and raises Tx/JJ on the flop). Draws might fold to our 3bet and sets/two pair shove over. When we call our hand looks like draws and scared overpairs which gives him the idea he could be good when the heart comes and we shovel money in

What do you mean if he re-raises you'll have to fold? You've already put in over half your stack.

Don't show results. If your raise was bad you can't expect as many people to critisize it when you've shown that it worked. I'd have cut the hand off at the bet and asked people what to do next.

I prefer calling the turn. I don't think we've enough information to believe this is a bluff. Sure he's folded to your c-bet repeatedly but your assuming mental weakness on his part, maybe he's just a nit intent on set mining and now he's finally hit? We have odds to call given his polarized range and our 12outs. If he is betting legitimately no doubt he is holding a monster we can stack, if he isn't we may even be ahead of his air or low flush draw.

I prefer the 3bet on the flop to the line you took. The minraise being light is a far lesser assumption than the minraise and turn bet being light and we risk our money with far greater equity. Although I'd want reads that his range is draw heavy. Is this guy loose or nitty preflop? If he has ample draws we can play perfectly against them by 3betting the flop and shipping the turn, we can also knock out a few weaker value hands. Again though we need to know if we're facing a set mining nit a tag a lag or a fishcake. My default without further information would be to call both streets.

Demonomania said:

What do you mean if he re-raises you'll have to fold? You've already put in over half your stack.

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so say on the flop we 3bet it to around $4 and he 4bets to like $10, are we then shoving, is folding out of the question at this point? We have onlt put in about 1/4 of our stack

forget my last comment I realised in the original post I meant if he re raises the turn I will fold, in which case you'd assume it to be an all in raise meaning that there would be about $30 dollars in the pot and I would have to call about $10 meaning I would be getting 3 to 1 on a call which is not the right odds for me to draw to a flush, especially if he has a set (which I'd assume he does if he shoves) because then we can't pair the board and the ace is no good.

I like this line. Turning an overcard with more outs is a great turn to bluff. Plus you're getting amazing odds on the flop. Not to mention villain can have a super wide range otb.

c9h13no3 said:

I like this line. Turning an overcard with more outs is a great turn to bluff. Plus you're getting amazing odds on the flop. Not to mention villain can have a super wide range otb.

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What would you have done in this spot if the turn was say an offsuit 4 and villain bet the same amount?

js520 said:

What would you have done in this spot if the turn was say an offsuit 4 and villain bet the same amount?

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I'd probably check/call again. The min-raise leads me to believe villain isnt very good, so we have some implied odds. I'd prefer that villain not be on the button, since that puts a lot of junk in his range. But our draw has a lot of other ones dominated, so I'm okay calling again. But if we had like J9o, or some other weaker draw, and the turn was a four, then I'd check/fold.