$20 NLHE Full Ring: So many mistakes/Help?

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First hand: Was my fold here dumb? I didn't have stats on my opponent, but he wasn't playing too loose, or anything out of the ordinary.

SB: $14.05
BB: $6.53
UTG: $5.57
UTG+1 Hero: $25.32
MP: $30.94
MP+1: $1.85
CO: $20.28
BTN: $23.54

Pre-flop: ($0.30) Hero is UTG+1 and dealt :kd4: :kh4:
Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.60, SB folds, UTG calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.90) :5d4: :as4: :7s4:
UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $0.95, UTG folds, Hero folds, returned $0

Final Pot: $2.85






Second hand: So many mistakes in this one. I feel like I should have been raising more pre, and checking OOP on that flop was beyond stupid.

SB: $4.97
BB Hero: $24.72
UTG: $30.94
UTG+1: $1.85
MP: $20.28
MP+1: $24.75
CO: $13.95
BTN: $6

Pre-flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB and dealt :ad4: :ah4:
2 folds, MP raises to $0.54, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.88, MP calls $0.34

Flop: ($1.86) :8c4: :3s4: :10c4:
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($1.86) :8c4: :3s4: :10c4: :7h4:
Hero bets $1.24, MP raises to $4.14, Hero calls $2.90

River: ($10.14) :8c4: :3s4: :10c4: :7h4: :jc4:
Hero checks, MP checks

Final Pot: $10.14







Third hand: Honestly I feel like my problem was the bet I made after the flop. I tried to keep him in & didn't consider sets/draws.

SB: $4.53
BB Hero: $22.61
UTG: $1.25
UTG+1: $22
MP: $19.70
MP+1: $13.55
CO: $5.97
BTN: $6 (sitting out)

Pre-flop: ($0.30) Hero is BB and dealt :ks4: :kh4:
2 folds, MP raises to $0.60, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.20, MP calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.50) :10s4: :8d4: :6h4:
Hero bets $0.80, MP calls $0.80

Turn: ($4.10) :10s4: :8d4: :6h4: :9c4:
Hero bets $1.20, MP calls $1.20

River: ($6.50) :10s4: :8d4: :6h4: :9c4: :8c4:
Hero checks, MP bets $4, Hero calls $4

Final Pot: $14.50




I suppose I should just be happy at how well I run. These were from one 1hr session (the first two were back to back hands). I really need to learn how to take better advantage of situations like the ones posted above though.

Any suggestions are much appreciated.
 
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Haha definitely running good.

Without going into every decision on every street of each hand...what jumps out at me...what's up w the passive flop play? Will get you into trouble w those hands.

Hand 1 cbet, then probably fold to raises.

Hand 2 cbet!! Aa's just a pair. Getting too fancy with the check lol

Hand 3. 1.20 preflop then .80 on the flop? Then just 1.20 on turn? Err bet sizing. You should be lookin to bet at leassst 1/2 pot

I see since you have good preflop hands you like to check or bet very little to invite action. Careful w that. 1 it becomes easy to reaad and 2 you're pricing every draw out ther in...putting yourself in tough spots when draw cards hit turn or river.
 
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Your bet sizing is TERRIBLE! You're playing a game where the number 1 mistake your opponents make is calling too much. To take advantage of this fact you need to be betting bigger all around. Those 3bet sizes are awful. Postflop sizing may even be worse.

Hand 1 is not a big mistake. I'd probably call once there but folding is not unreasonable.

Everything else though ... work on your bet sizing and stop worrying about keeping your customer.
 
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Kind of figured that would be the response. I seriously face palmed the entire time I was editing the thread. ..I realized a lot of problems were sizing afterwards. Blah...

Thank you both for confirming though.

WV, how much would you 3-bet to on both hand #1 & #2? I'm just curious. I often find myself up **** creek without a plan for these hands.

I ended up getting aces again (imagine that) after you both gave your advice. Does this hand below look a bit better, or were my raises overkill?

SB: $6.50
BB: $6
UTG: $3.60
UTG+1: $13.17
MP: $20.71
MP+1: $19.48
MP+2: $10.69
CO: $17.72
BTN Hero: $23.97

Pre-flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN and dealt :ah4: :ac4:
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP folds, MP+1 calls $0.20, MP+2 calls $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.40, 4 folds, MP+2 calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.50) :2d4: :10d4: :kh4:
MP+2 checks, Hero bets $2.34, MP+2 calls $2.34

Turn: ($8.18) :2d4: :10d4: :kh4: :6d4:
MP+2 checks, Hero bets $7, MP+2 folds,
 
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Pre is perfect. Flop could be a bit bigger but it's much better and with villain's stack size turn is good as well.

wp
 
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If you post another hh with these garbarge raises, we're gonna ban you.

HAHAHAHA I probably deserve it too.
Nah, I'm honestly just trying to become better. I'd rather receive the third degree from veterans here, then to burn money @ 20nl
 
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But in that last hand, I'd make the flop a touch bigger. And as WV said, pre is perfect. You isolated one limper, allowing an easy cbet.
 
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Kind of figured that would be the response. I seriously face palmed the entire time I was editing the thread. ..I realized a lot of problems were sizing afterwards. Blah...

Thank you both for confirming though.

WV, how much would you 3-bet to on both hand #1 & #2? I'm just curious. I often find myself up **** creek without a plan for these hands.

I ended up getting aces again (imagine that) after you both gave your advice. Does this hand below look a bit better, or were my raises overkill?

SB: $6.50
BB: $6
UTG: $3.60
UTG+1: $13.17
MP: $20.71
MP+1: $19.48
MP+2: $10.69
CO: $17.72
BTN Hero: $23.97

Pre-flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN and dealt :ah4: :ac4:
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.20, MP folds, MP+1 calls $0.20, MP+2 calls $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.40, 4 folds, MP+2 calls $1.20

Flop: ($3.50) :2d4: :10d4: :kh4:
MP+2 checks, Hero bets $2.34, MP+2 calls $2.34

Turn: ($8.18) :2d4: :10d4: :kh4: :6d4:
MP+2 checks, Hero bets $7, MP+2 folds,

I'd bet the turn smaller because it's really hard to call this sizing without a diamond.
 
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I was wondering about that myself. He had like $6.95 left behind, so I figured he'd be hard to call (without a diamond) even if I made it roughly $4-$5.50.

I kept thinking back to "stop worrying about keeping your customer" and decided to bet as if he did have the Ad/Kd/Qd.
 
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I'd bet the turn smaller because it's really hard to call this sizing without a diamond.
Villain only has ~$7 left. He's not folding much of anything imo.

I was wondering about that myself. He had like $6.95 left behind, so I figured he'd be hard to call (without a diamond) even if I made it roughly $4-$5.50.

I kept thinking back to "stop worrying about keeping your customer" and decided to bet as if he did have the Ad/Kd/Qd.
You're NOT bluffing here. He's calling with any K and all his single decent diamond hands. Pure value.
 
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I think he's folding a lot of things that aren't Kd+. I think we get called more often by random Kx if we bet $3-$4 and then he's completely potstuck with a 1/5 PSB left on the river as opposed to facing a 7/8th pot shove on the turn.
 
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I think he's folding a lot of things that aren't Kd+. I think we get called more often by random Kx if we bet $3-$4 and then he's completely potstuck with a 1/5 PSB left on the river as opposed to facing a 7/8th pot shove on the turn.
Wat? A fifth of the time he's going to fold a diamond if he doesn't have one because he's a fish.
 
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Wat? A fifth of the time he's going to fold a diamond if he doesn't have one because he's a fish.

yah and he's going to fold like 60% of the time on the turn when we bet $7.
 
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yah and he's going to fold like 60% of the time on the turn when we bet $7.
And 55% of the time when we bet $4. Seriously, half is range is going to be draws that we won't get anything from on the river. And the other half is going to be scared of 20% of rivers. Villain's range for calling $4 would have to be WAY WAY wider in order to justify a smaller bet. That seems brutally obvious to me.
 
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You're NOT bluffing here. He's calling with any K and all his single decent diamond hands. Pure value.

No, I get it & I definitely agree. I think I might have just worded it completely wrong. I do see baudib's point though, and had originally wondered whether I bet too much on the river or not.

But yes, given villain's stack, he's calling with just about anything here.
 
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And 55% of the time when we bet $4. Seriously, half is range is going to be draws that we won't get anything from on the river. And the other half is going to be scared of 20% of rivers. Villain's range for calling $4 would have to be WAY WAY wider in order to justify a smaller bet. That seems brutally obvious to me.

I think it's way wider.
 
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1) Don't fold the flop.

2) Can't see second hole card.

3) Your 3bet should be twice this size. Postflop bet sizes are absurdly low. Pot button.
 
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I figured I'd go ahead and put this hand in this thread too, since I'm pretty much asking whether or not my bet sizing was appropriate.

I hope this is proof I'm improving. :S

SB: $36.64
BB: $22.69
UTG: $13.78
UTG+1: $10.01
MP: $11.74
MP+1: $12.59
MP+2: $15.46
CO: $19.40
BTN Hero: $35.60

Pre-flop: ($0.30) Hero is BTN and dealt :kd4: :kc4:
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, 4 folds, Hero raises to $2.20, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.40

Flop: ($4.70) :6c4: :qh4: :10h4:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.85, UTG+1 calls $3.85

Turn: ($4.70) :6c4: :qh4: :10h4: :qs4:
UTG+1 bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($6.70) :6c4: :qh4: :10h4: :qs4: :6s4:
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+1 calls $6.81 (All-in)

Villain shows :7h4: :7c4:
 
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3bet should be bigger (at least $2.40). Flop looks pretty good. His turn bet seems odd, I guess calling is ok, although it kind of looks like a draw wanting to see the turn for cheap. River looks good to me since he can talk himself into calling with Tx or any pair to beat your missed draw or Ace high.
 
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