$20 NLHE Full Ring: River a straight against a calling station

$20 NL HE Full Ring: River a straight against a calling station

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 46/7/1

Only 40ish hands on the guy but it's pretty clear that he is just plain awful. I think just calling on the river is kind of bad but would he call a raise with anything less than a flush?

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poker stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP2: $12.35 (49.4 bb)
SeanyJ (MP3): $33.10 (132.4 bb)
CO: $5 (20 bb)
BTN: $32.15 (128.6 bb)
SB: $18.50 (74 bb)
BB: $47.80 (191.2 bb)
UTG: $4.75 (19 bb)
UTG+1: $28.95 (115.8 bb)
MP1: $24.30 (97.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: SeanyJ is MP3 with 9:heart: 7:heart:
4 folds, SeanyJ raises to $1, 2 folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($2.25) Q:diamond: 5:spade: 6:club: (2 players)
SB checks, SeanyJ checks

Turn: ($2.25) 2:diamond: (2 players)
SB checks, SeanyJ bets $1.50, SB calls $1.50

River: ($5.25) 8:diamond: (2 players)
SB bets $3, SeanyJ calls $3

He seems like a passive player and a bad one at that. I think there are plenty of hands that you can get value out of instead of worrying about the minimal amount of times he actually did hit a backdoor flush. Especially when it comes to a person with a VP$P of 46...

Your hand is pretty well disguised so that also helps if he is even briefly considering what you might have for a split second.

Just not quite sure what I like as a raise... putting him all in might scare him off his weak Q's, mid pp's, 78's, A6's or whatever else he may have, but I may just do that anyway, since he seems like a passive caller who could convince himself he's got value.

Hmm.. this is a bit of a toughy. With that VP$IP he could have about anything here. He could have the queen or two pair.. he could have made his flush draw.

Question is.. why does a loose passive player check/call the turn and bet into the aggressor on the river?

1) made flush draw.. very possible
2) hit two pair (Q8?)
3) he felt you were weak and took a shot representing the flush

A few possibilities for sure... IMO I just call it here, his range is too big to know where we are equity wise very accurately. I like the call.. and I'm really intrigued to know what he was holding.

Well since it looks like this isn't going to get any more responses, villain showed 66 for the flopped set leaving me very confused.

spore said:

Hmm.. this is a bit of a toughy. With that VP$IP he could have about anything here. He could have the queen or two pair.. he could have made his flush draw.

Question is.. why does a loose passive player check/call the turn and bet into the aggressor on the river?

1) made flush draw.. very possible
2) hit two pair (Q8?)
3) he felt you were weak and took a shot representing the flush

A few possibilities for sure... IMO I just call it here, his range is too big to know where we are equity wise very accurately. I like the call.. and I'm really intrigued to know what he was holding.

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Regarding #3... LP's generally don't take shots or represent anything. They just call, call, call, call and call some more. If they suddenly start betting/raising they have something decent.

1 or 2 are very possible and I did see the results seanyj which actually don't surprise me a ton even though he clearly played it about as badly as he possibly could.

I expect a villain like this to show up with almost any one pair+ hand. If he's betting into you I expect to in general see any Q, any flush, any 2 pair, any set any straight and possibly a hand like JJ


On another note..now that you know a little about him I don't mind a value reraise here against him in the future. He's clearly shown he doesn't pay attention to straight/flush cards and is only looking at his hand. Also that he has nfc how to value bet anything. To answer your question in the OP...yes this player definitely calls a raise here with worse..and with much worse most likely.

I think this is somehow a mix between a blocking bet and a value bet from villain. I think it's profitable to make it ~8 or so here and get some value from your hand.