$20 NLHE Full Ring: How to get the $$ in with the nuts

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$20 NL HE Full Ring: How to get the $$ in with the nuts

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 17/9/2

0% 3bet, 0% fold to 3bet over only 23 hands.

MP1: $31.45 (125.8 bb)
MP2: $21.20 (84.8 bb)
MP3: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
CO: $16.55 (66.2 bb)
BTN: $24.30 (97.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $25 (100 bb)
BB: $8.90 (35.6 bb)
UTG+1: $15.30 (61.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with K:diamond: K:club:
2 folds, MP2 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, MP2 calls $2

Flop: ($6.25) J:spade: 3:heart: K:heart: (2 players)
Hero ??

What is our best line here ?
Say I went for a check and he bet out, would our best line then be to reraise or call ? Stacks are kinda awkward too.

Feel kinda silly asking advice on a hands where I have the nuts pretty much but hey I wanted to know.
 
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I don't think checking this flop is a good idea. He calls or even raises a cbet with a lot, like JJ, 33, AA (unlikely) or even 9Q, or something like AJs (hearts) or calls with just hearts or gutshot.

Fire away. The only hands i typically slowplay at the flop is a stone cold nuts hand like a boat or quads.
 
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I assume ur right, because it has been said so many times before. But I don't know if he can hit that flop hard enough.. In my experience 'tag' regs like this don't get too out of line preflop. And on this flop I find it very hard to imagine getting Q9 to call and especially raise.

Same for AJ, although if both these hands we're hearts it would be different. But what is the likelihood of that ?

Obviously we're getting action (probably stacks) from lower sets and AA.

AK and KQ and KJ are all very unlikely, unless he spazzes out or my read is wrong (and very possible since stat sample is so small) I don't think he calls a 3bet with a pocket pair < JJ.

I don't really. So say we check, do we check raise ?
 
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i think u should practise balancing ur range here cause i know that ur going to bet hands like AQ here and if u always check when u hit, someone is going to figure u out and own ur soul.

plus it is a lot easier to ger his whole stack in by betting this flop. there are also a lot of draws out there and u dont want to give them a free card

P.S: stats are irrelevant as sample size is tiny
 
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i think u should practise balancing ur range here cause i know that ur going to bet hands like AQ here and if u always check when u hit, someone is going to figure u out and own ur soul.

plus it is a lot easier to ger his whole stack in by betting this flop. there are also a lot of draws out there and u dont want to give them a free card

P.S: stats are irrelevant as sample size is tiny

Agreed. Gotta get out of that shitty check monster hands mindset and really think before I act like that.

Yeah i know the 3bet/fold to 3bet stats are irrelevant but at least vpip/pfr/af gives us some idea right..
 
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3-bet larger.

Had villain been on the button or cutoff, I'd think about checking it to him and letting him stab at it (and then CRAI, because it looks like a draw). However, villain's range is pretty strong as is, so we should just bet for value.

I c-bet for $4.00 and go from there.
 
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I think CRAI will almost never be perceived as shoving a draw on 25nl FR.

Maybe some huge combo draw but even then only the best shove that baby. Most just draw.
 
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i don't think a crai will look like a draw at all but nor do i think you'd induce much at all on this board. Just bet bet bet. There is no point trying to do things like checking to induce without lots of metagame/good reads that villain will bluff off a stack. Keep it simple.
 
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Gotcha, when will I learn. I've been doing this shit for months and still check monsters ? What am I a compulsive fancy player ?
 
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Especially considering that the major advantage of bet bet betting alot of trash is that you get alot of action when you bet bet bet your monsters.
 
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