€20 NLHE Full Ring: Facing nearly 200BB river bet?

Thinker_145

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What am I supposed to have done here? Check the turn and keep calling? I wish I had done that.

Should I fold to the turn 2 bet?

Can we ever call this river? Just to tell you I did fold the river but I am not sure I played this right.

iPoker - €0.20 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 98 BB (VPIP: 39.53, PFR: 10.47, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, hands: 87)
UTG+1: 108.05 BB (VPIP: 19.23, PFR: 5.77, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
MP: 317.6 BB (VPIP: 61.29, PFR: 25.81, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 31)
CO: 31.4 BB (VPIP: 58.77, PFR: 14.98, 3Bet Preflop: 6.96, Hands: 311)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 13.35, PFR: 8.90, 3Bet Preflop: 5.54, Hands: 723)
Hero (SB): 324.8 BB
BB: 155.6 BB (VPIP: 25.31, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 3.95, Hands: 413)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K:heart: K:spade:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, UTG calls 5 BB, MP calls 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB

Flop: (25 BB, 4 players) 3:spade: 9:spade: 7:spade:
Hero bets 12.5 BB, UTG calls 12.5 BB, MP calls 12.5 BB, fold

Turn: (62.5 BB, 3 players) Q:heart:
Hero bets 31.25 BB, fold, MP raises to 81.25 BB, Hero calls 50 BB

River: (225 BB, 2 players) T:diamond:
Hero checks, MP bets 186.25 BB, fold
 
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I would have done some pot control on the turn and checked back as we got called on two spots because betting the turn is risky and not really necessary.

As played i would have made a fold on the turn when we got check raised and then put my hand up realizing that betting there was a misstep. ;)
 
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The key point for me is that his stats although still small indicate to me that he is a nutball. They will raise the turn with a bit of equity and shove the river all day for fun.
I would be looking to use what we have seen him do already to guide us to a definitive action on the turn. You either go with the hand fully on the turn or not at all here. You can't call the turn and then fold on the river its too spewy.
It looks like he has won a couple of stacks already. Did you see those hands? Here it is the monotone board that bothers me too much to call off that many bb. These sort of players play a lot of suited cards so he could have been slow playing you from the flop onwards.
That said its still a close decision and I would expect you to be good here pretty often. My gut tells me he has the ace of spades (repeat in a gravelly voice) and put you to the test on the turn and then bluff shoved the river.
 
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The key point for me is that his stats although still small indicate to me that he is a nutball. They will raise the turn with a bit of equity and shove the river all day for fun.
I would be looking to use what we have seen him do already to guide us to a definitive action on the turn. You either go with the hand fully on the turn or not at all here. You can't call the turn and then fold on the river its too spewy.
It looks like he has won a couple of stacks already. Did you see those hands? Here it is the monotone board that bothers me too much to call off that many bb. These sort of players play a lot of suited cards so he could have been slow playing you from the flop onwards.
That said its still a close decision and I would expect you to be good here pretty often. My gut tells me he has the ace of spades (repeat in a gravelly voice) and put you to the test on the turn and then bluff shoved the river.
His stats are the reason why I bet the turn, I thought he might keep calling with worse.

If I didn't have the K of spades I might have folded the turn.

After the hand he did show what he did and it just left me speechless. He had K7 so pretty much nothing like there wasn't even anything to chase. Just a sheer power bluff.
 
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Nice hand here. I will play in the same way as yours
 
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As it turns out, he made a good bluff over us. Just take note on him and we would surely know what to do next time against him.

Anyway, he is representing a good hand at the turn and I would have done the same thing.
 
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Well we both know in this spot they often have it or missed it.

But his stats aren't very reliable with that many hands. So fold probably preferable.

I tend to make the call if i'm running good. But running bad fold.
 
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i like a fold here on the turn. the k of spades might not even be an out if he has the A of spades. even though he was bluffing, i don't expect these bluffs too often
 
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